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1. iAudio M3 20 GB Digital Music
Too low to display list($499.99)
2. Samsung Yepp YH-999 20 GB Portable
3. iRiver PMP-140 Portable Media
4. iRiver H120 20GB MP3 Jukebox
$398.99 list($449.95)
5. Archos AV400 20 GB Video Player/Recorder
6. iAUDIO M3 40 GB Metal Brown MP3
Too low to display list($229.95)
7. Archos Gmini XS 200 20 GB MP3Player
$275.49 list($309.00)
8. iAUDIO M3-20SL-CR 20 GB MP3 Jukebox
9. Cowon iAUDIO M3L - Digital player
$249.99 list($349.99)
10. Samsung YH-920 Super Thin MP3/WMA
$499.00 list($499.99)
11. iRiver PMP-120 Portable Media
12. Creative Labs NOMAD Jukebox 3
Too low to display list($349.99)
13. Archos Gmini 400 20 GB Digital
14. Archos 500512 Video AV120 with
15. Rio Riot 20 GB MP3 Player (MP3/WMA)
16. RCA Lyra 20 GB Jukebox MP3 Player
17. Archos Jukebox 20 GB Digital Audio
18. Philips HDD120 Audio HDD MP3 Player
$318.91 list($799.99)
19. RCA RTD750 250-Watt Home Theatre
20. Samsung YP-910GS USB 2.0 20 GB

1. iAudio M3 20 GB Digital Music Player
by JetAudio, Inc.
list price: $299.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B00028VKJ0
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: JetAudio, Inc.
Sales Rank: 35707
Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

Born for conquering your ear! The iAUDIO M3 features the ultra slimmest and luxurious body. Feel the difference that you never imagine... ... Read more


  • Supports MP3, OGG, WMA, ASF, WAV and OGG
  • Lithium rechargeable battery
  • Ultra Slim Design
  • 20 gig storage capacity
  • Full control remote control with LCD

Reviews (4)

5-0 out of 5 stars Probably the best MP3 player
How do you weed out the best MP3 players from the abundance of models and brands on the market? I had done some quite in depth research into this, as I wanted to make sure that if I'm going to spend a fair bit of money, it's going to have to be something that lasts and performs to a very high standard indeed.I wanted great sound, great style and build quality, ease of use and compactness and lightness. Well, the Cowon IAudio M3 certainly fulfils all those requirements to a really high standard and good value for money when compared to other players (you don't have to fork out extra for protective casing or a cradle, it's all included).

I initially narrowed my selection to an IPOD, an IRIVER and this one from Cowon. I've not listened to IRIVER's sound quality but I have listened to the IPOD and I do feel happier with the IAudio's sound.

I've had it now for 3 months and I'm still over the moon with it. The feature that really sold it for me was the small remote, from which all controls are made. It means that the actual main body can stay hidden away in your pocket safe from accidents and those dastardly `hoodies' you get nowadays and you can clip the remote to something within easy reach. The actual remote is a really great idea and not at all difficult to control as some reviewers have suggested and is rather stylish. I like the fact that the two main buttons can also be pushed in as well as from side to side...

The equaliser settings are superb and the MP3 enhance and the surround sound effects work to really fantastic effect. The built in FM tuner is another added bonus and the voice recorder has also come in very handy - other features that sold it for me. I also really like the fact that the IAudio M3 automatically encodes to MP3 format as you record directly to it, which comes in handy for when you want to record from cassettes.

The only criticism I do have is that the instructions are really bad and do not explain well enough the ins and out of the JetShell software and if like me, this is your first foray into the wonderful world of MP3, and unless you've had experience with encoding to MP3 before and file management, you will probably get rather frustrated and there will be an element of trial and error before you work out how it all works. However, it's a small criticism and not enough to warrant a reduced star off the overall rating.

In short, this is a nigh on perfect MP3 player and used in conjunction with a set of Sennheiser PX200's (although the earphones it comes with are rather good), you'll have a stunning jukebox set up.

4-0 out of 5 stars Price vs. 20GB IPOD
I'm not an IPOD proponent, however, I feel the need to correct the previous review that claimed this product is "considerably less" than the 20GB IPOD.This is not true.The 20GB IPOD is EXACTLY the same price as this unit.That being said, I would still rate this higher than the IPOD simply because its true plug and play with no driver necessary - that is, it will show up as a drive letter in Windows without loading any proprietary software.

5-0 out of 5 stars Love it...
I bought my I Audio about 6 months ago and have not had one problem with it, the sound quality is great (although the headphones that come with it suck), and it's got a good battery life.The one negative thing about it is that the software that comes with it is very confusing, and the little toggle keys on the screen can be very confusing and hard to work.However, if you're okay with putting up with that, it's a great little MP3 player.

5-0 out of 5 stars simply the best
This is quite simply the best music player ever made.It has more built in features than an ipod, longer battery life, faster transfer speeds, can act like a USB drive - the list goes on and on.All for a price that is considerably less than a comparable 20 GB ipod.Some may say that not having a screen on the base and only the remote is a downside - but I say absolutely not.It genious in design.You never really want to take that out of your pocket or belt and fumble around with it anyway.You'd risk dropping it - esp if you're walking or running.

The controls on the remote are ellegantly designed - with a minimum set of dials and buttons serving muliple purposes.You can even manage your files through those controls too.What I like most is that there is a lock on both the remote and the base.If you lock the base, and unlock the remote, you can still turn it on though the remote but not through the base.Simply brilliant in that you can leave the controls on w/o risking a mis-press when it's in your pocket. ... Read more

2. Samsung Yepp YH-999 20 GB Portable Media Center
by Samsung Electronics
list price: $499.99
our price: Too low to display
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B000294HDU
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Samsung Electronics
Sales Rank: 3749
Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

The Samsung portable media center is a Windows Mobile-based portable device that makes it easy to store and play up to 80 hours of TV and movies, 5,000 songs and your most prized photos. Features MP3, WMA, WMV and JPEG playback; 3.5" TFT LCD screen; 20GB hard disk drive; USB 2.0 interface; and much more. System Requirements: Windows CP and up. Includes A/V-out cable, earphones, USB 2.0 cable and charger, install disk, carrying case and user manual. Available storage capacity may vary. Imported. 4-1/4Lx3-3/4Wx3/4D". ... Read more


  • USB 2.0 compliant
  • Rechargeable li-ion battery
  • Stores up to 20 GB of audio and/or video, in MPEG4, MP3, JPEG, and Windows Media formats
  • 3.5 TFT LCD display
  • Connects to a TV through composite output port

Reviews (9)

1-0 out of 5 stars pretty useless
watching videos on the samsung yh 999 is below adverage because it doesn't play .avi files and videos that would play clear on my computer will lag sometimes on the yh999. if you bought your yh999 to view photos and play music,i recommend you try a 30gb ipod photo for a better experience and cheaper price tag.

5-0 out of 5 stars Excellent and Handy Portable TV, Photo and Music Player
I have used this now for over a month and I love it.It's stylish, easy to use and works well.I use it for music (I subscribe to an online music service) and I transfer TV shows to it (I have a media center PC) and watch them when I'm flying.Theoretically, you could rip your DVDs, transcode them to DivX and transfer them to this device and take them on the road or on vacation or whatever.This takes a bit of doing (you have to get the DVD Decrypter and Dr DivX programs), but if you do it this could hold about 20 movies.That'll keep the kids occupied for a while!And they could even watch the movies on the TV, not on the player, because the Yepp has normal TV outs just like a DVD player/VCR.I would definitely rather do this than buy for instance a Sony PSP and have to buy special discs that only work in the PSP...and then I guess have to buy a regular DVD to play it in my DVD player??How about no to that.

The Yepp is too big for jogging, and is bigger for instance than an iPod, but it's not ungainly.In fact I would say it's pretty sleek.I do carry it in my pocket from time to time and it's no big deal.One nice feature by the way is the kickstand on the back that allows you to set it up when you're travelling or something and watch it without holding it up.Also, if you're just playing music it actually is kind of cool to have the screen because it shows the album art so if you're at a desk doing work you can set it up and it's a little more fun than an iPod or a screenless mp3 player.

The only problem I have had with the Yepp is that while songs transfer easily from my PC, playlists, so far, have not.Bummer for me.I blame Real's dumb Rhapsody to Go service.It's very buggy.So I blame Real.I wish I could review that >:()

This thing works great.I love it.It's really user friendly.I recommend it.

5-0 out of 5 stars GREAT PRODUCT !!
I've tested and read about them all and the Samsung, overall is the best out there. The transferring of DVD movies and television can be a little difficult. For individuals that are somewhat computer savy, it should not be a major obstacle. I have downloaded everything on it. Pictures, movies, television and music. I transfered my whole CD collection which consists of 400 CD's and I have yet to fill up the memory space. If I had to pick a flaw about this media player, it would have to be to battery life which is a little limited. That;'s most due to it's small and sleek design. On the go, this player can fit right in your back pocket. A must get, you will not be disappointed!!!!

1-0 out of 5 stars Look Sleek But Quality Is Very Poor
I would not touch this product. Look at Archos instead which is cheaper and has less issues. The technical support at Samsung was horrible. I would not recommend Samsung MP3 players for the general public. They make pretty good TV and Monitor displays but avoid other products.

5-0 out of 5 stars Pretty Damn Good
I tihnk it's a great system, it's very sufficient, and is able to do a lot of formats, which ISN'T listed (For Example, AVI). AVI was supporting it, and I was shocked, it fit my anime onto it just fine. The only thing I don't like is the USB, and perhaps its a defect, but it barely works on my PC for some reason, it doesn't want to appear "Connected", on my laptop it's fine though. It's not the device, it's probably the cord, or something from the PC I gotta reinstall, not sure yet, but it's not the device, because it works excellently ... Read more

3. iRiver PMP-140 Portable Media Player (40 GB)
by iRiver
list price: $599.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0002KWSS0
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: iRiver
Sales Rank: 26632
Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars
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Take your audio and video media files with you wherever you go using iRiver's PMP-140 portable media player, the tiny player with fathomless storage abilities. The media player holds an incredible 40 GB of storage for not just music, but digital photos and full-color, full-motion video, too. The unit sports a 3.5-inch TFT LCD and an audio input so you can load audio content directly into the player from other home or portable devices--no PC required. It will double as a voice recorder, too, generating compressed-audio files from its onboard condenser microphone input.

The unit is PC-compatible, of course: connect it via high-speed USB 2.0 to transfer your media files to the PMP-140 in a jiffy. You can store up to 160 hours of video (using 320 x 240 resolution at 500 kbps, AVI format) or up to 1,200 hours of music (using Windows Media format at 64 kbps). The PMP-140's format compatibilities extend from MP3 to WMA (Windows Media Audio, with full Microsoft Digital Rights Management compatibility) to WMV and DivX (AVI) video and BMP/JPEG image files. Using a USB camera? Use the PMP-140 for on-the-go viewing with a direct USB connection.

The media player offers a built-in FM radio tuner and speaker, making it perfect for sporting events and headphones-free listening (iRiver earphones are included). You can connect it to your home stereo and/or television for additional listening or viewing flexibility. The media player's user-replaceable rechargeable lithium-ion battery provides up to 5 hours of audio/video playback and 16 hours of audio-only use per charge.

What's in the Box
Portable media player, iRiver earphones, rechargeable lithium-ion battery, a carrying case, USB 2.0 device cable, USB 1.1 host cable, line-in cable, TV out cable, a user's manual, an installation CD, and an AC power adapter. ... Read more


  • USB 2.0 support, audio inputs and audio/video outputs, built-in FM tuner and voice recorder
  • Includes rechargeable lithium-ion battery; up to 16 hours (audio only) and up to 5 hours (audio/video)
  • Plays digital music and video files, including WMV, MP3, WMA, DivX (AVI), BMP, and JPEG
  • 40 GB storage total storage capacity--up to 160 hours of video, 1,200 hours of music
  • 3.5-inch color TFT LCD

Reviews (6)

5-0 out of 5 stars great player but don't believe it plays wmv files
I was looking for a player that could play my huge library of .wmv format TV shows (I have 200GB of them) and according to the Amazon review here I would have been mislead into buying this product.

It's NOT a .wmv player.

If you want that, go for the iRiver PMC-120, which is a Portable Media Center device and natively supports .wmv files.
Unfortunately the PMC has much less useful functionality than the awesome PMP model.

Looks like iRiver don't make the perfect player for ME yet. I'd like a PMP-80 or PMP-120 that plays .wmv files without needing to convert them first.

3-0 out of 5 stars an alternative
I'm a Korean who wanted to buy the PMP from IRiver last Christmas. I have been going to lot's of electronic markets in Seoul and have found that the sellers did not recommend the PMP from iRiver. After reading the advertisment on the iRiver site, I was so keen to purchase that gadget, yet after looking at the sellers' expressions and listening to their recommendations, I have found that this PMP was not the best machine.

It has lot's of codex that needs to be downloaded off the internet, and the use is more complicated. It also needs to have some of the websites paid in order to use the PMP. What the sellers recommended was a PMP from i-station, another Korean mp3 company. It is more simpler to use, and has a touch pad that you can use with the pen that comes with the gadget to choose your moves. It works like an USB drive, so all you have to do is just copy the file you wish to put into the PMP "drive" and paste it. It's that simple, while the iRiver one needs to have softwares installed and you need an internet connection. The i-staion version has more functions that the iRiver version. It contains a movie player, mp3 player, a photo album, FM radio, and what's more, it has a electronic dictionary that is excelent for students. I have purchased the i-station version of the PMP and is very saticfied with it. However, since this gadget cannot be purchased outside of Korea yet, it would be best to go to Korea and purchase this instead of the iRiver product. (A little note: the one from i-station is a little more expensive than the iRiver one, due to the functions and the origin of the LCD. iRiver's PMP's LCD is made in China, while the i-station's PMP's LCD is made in Japan)

4-0 out of 5 stars Bring in the MP4!!
I got this for xmas, and despite being 26, i play with it everyday like a child with their favorite toy.
I'll try to really cover the points that i was concerned about, as the general stuff such is pretty well explained in the description.

Yes it's a bit bigger then the ipod or the music only irivers, but it's still smaller then a cd player, and is about the same size as the new gameboy DS. So size isn't really an issue for me, and with having big hands (yes i like the original xbox controllers!!) it's a great fit.

Feels very solid, I don't have any fear of breaking it if i drop it, unless i'm throwing it around. The usb port door is likely the only thing that could break on it easily, but i'm always gentle with things that cost a lot of money, so again not an issue with me.

Button layout and use: So this is the exact opposite of ipod. The controls are unique and this is one of the few times that i've had to read the manual to figure some things out, but even if you're confused, there's a help button that you can hit at anytime to give you the hints you need with the buttons. Took me about a full day of messing around with it before i became comfortable and could navigate with no problems.

Screen: the picture on this is absolutely amazing, really impressed with the colors and the contrast between darks on such a small screen. Bright colors are bright, dark are dark, and there is little bleeding that i've been able to notice so far with the videos that i've put on it. Very very happy with the screen. Viewing angle isn't too shabby either, so if you're sharing, you don't need to sit on each other's lap to both watch.

Software: Besides the internet connection that you have to have, didn't realize it at the time, and had to use dial up when i tried to install, zzzzzz) and make sure you have direct x installed, the software is great, and easy to use. I've put an entire season of one of my fav tv shows on it using the provided software, and it works like a charm. For all you replay tv owners, this is a dream, record to your pc, then put on your iriver, any show you missed you can now watch on your way to work, school, whatever.

Overall, i am thrilled with this gadget, i think they could use a solid firmware update to address the little things, like spelling tunner right) and better recognition with the .ogg files (had a little hitch with that earlier), but i can find issues with anything if i look long enough.

IRIVER if you're reading this... sell a remote for this, i'd be nice to be able to keep this in the case all the time that i'm just listening to music.

IF you have the cash, and want to buy something other then ipod (boo mac/apple) that gives you a huge amount of flexibility for music, photos, radio and movies, this is the toy for you.

Hope this helps!!

2-0 out of 5 stars Overall i-river quality
This is a warning about i-riverI do not have this specific i-river product, but I have purchased two of their products in the past, and the quality of both began to deteriorate within months.Both of them damaged numerous sets of headphones, wearing the connectors to the point that only one earpiece would work.On one of my players, the backlight on the LCD stopped working, and on the other the connection between the player and the USB chord no longer holds properly, preventing me from changing any of the MP3's on a 64 MB player.When I contacted the company about these problems they gave me the good ole runaround, basically vouching for the poor qaulity of their products.I will not being buy any of their products again.

1-0 out of 5 stars Sorely disappointed
Fairly savvy PC/Smartphone user; VERY disappointed in this.Quality was a bit cheap-plastic stand and USB port covers were fairly flimsy.Many typos in user manual (operationgs, for example) and even the word FM Tuner on the actual screen was spelled FM Tunner.Bad form.Many instructions in manual made absolutely no sense; written by someone in Asia with a mediocre command of English.
Worse, the machine locked up several times and wouldn't play certain .jpg images even though others in the same file were fine.Worse still, I couldn't get the software to load.Historically when this happens, I know the product or company are going to disappear.Happened to my photo scanner and my first laptop company.Anyone hear of Tamarack, BDI or buy an Olivetti PC recently?
When I get a product like this in 2004, I don't go on-line to fix it, spend a few days on hold for technical support waiting for Jason or Dinesh to figure out how to sort through their in-house databank of problems and cures, or download patches.I return it.I don't need the headaches.Do you?I'll get the Samsung YEP 999 or wait till the Sony equivalent comes out and get something that'll actually work.Very sad product.
Joe Ullman ... Read more

4. iRiver H120 20GB MP3 Jukebox
by iRiver
list price: $399.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0000EI9VR
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: iRiver
Sales Rank: 13310
Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

OGG Support Anyone? Could this be the MP3 jukebox you've been waiting for? Listen to hour after hour of your favorite MP3, WMA or OGG files tucked away on the unit's hard drive. Or if you're in the mood for your favorite afternoon DeeJays, just fire up the built-in FM radio. A definite plus for folks on the go, the rechargeable battery lasts up to 16 hours on a single charge. How often are you away from a power source for longer than that? Ultra-fast USB 2.0 file transfers make uploading files a breeze so you can spend less time setting up your player, and spend more time actually listening to your tunes! Models H140 40 GB of internal storage Up to 16 hours of battery life Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV and OGG music files Ultra-fast USB 2.0 transfers (up to 40 times faster than USB 1.0) Integrated FM tuner Backlit remote control with 4-line display Built-in voice recorder Intuitive music navigation Real-time MP3 encoding (no PC required) Store or transfer files of any type Extra-large, 8-line, backlit LCD Rechargeable Lithium Polymer battery Optical input and output Upgradeable firmware for future formats and features Compatible with Win98SE/Me/2000/XP Includes: Backlit remote control with 4-line display, iRiver earphones, Carrying case, Installation software CD, AC adapter, USB 2.0 cable, Line-in cable, External microphone, Printed user manual Dimensions: 2.4" x .7" x 4.1" Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year ... Read more


  • Backlit remote control with 4-line display
  • 20 GB of internal storage
  • Play MP3, WMA, ASF, and WAV formats
  • Includes built-in FM Tuner, voice recorder, and optical In/Out
  • MP3 Encoding

Reviews (206)

5-0 out of 5 stars My best purchase ever!!
Some people have been conditioned to think (by the media) that the Ipod is the ultimate jukebox-carry-along-music-whatever-device. WRONG!!!! I am of the opinion that the Ipod is highly overrated, so when I went looking for a hard drive player, I didn't even bother to check it.
But enough of the Ipod; this review is about the incredibly magnificent Iriver H120. The pros outweight the cons by a large and considerable margin: sound, user-friendliness, features, the gorgeously engraved leather carrying case, etc. I managed to equalize my Iriver so now it sounds the same, if not better, than a Bose sound system. The buttons only need 5 mins. to get accostumed to, and in the remote, everything is at your finger's reach, literally speaking.
The only problem I see with this device is the tangled cords between the remote and the earphones (which, by the way, are not that crappy as everybody says, once you equalize the sound to get the best out of them). Other than that, is the best spent US $250 ever.

I recommend this player with my eyes closed; it has been the best Xmas gift I could have ever given myself.

5-0 out of 5 stars iRiver H120 20GB MP3 Jukebox
I decided to get this player for my christmas, previously thinking of getting the iPod mini because of the cool design and bearing in mind that I had never owned an MP3 player before.
After seeing this "iRiver" i decided to check it out. I was totally astonished at the features this player had to offer ESPECIALLY the fact that it was 20gb and that it's battery life surpassed the iPod mini by far.

Here's a tip to buyers who can't decide between the iPod and the iRiver -

If you want it for the music - Go for the iRiver
If you want it for the design - Go for the iPod


3-0 out of 5 stars Great Player, Poor Company
I decided upon the iRiver H-120 after looking at a bunch of various brands. I liked the fact that the player had 20 gig space (I listen to audiobooks mostly) and liked the remote feature; with the ability to pop the player in my pocket with only the remote and headphones hanging out. After having the product for 8 months here's my few observations-

1)Cords are tangly- I spent many minutes just trying to unravel the cords every morning. A retractable cord/headphone would certainly help this.

2) remote is finicky- that is, sometimes the buttons press as you anticipate, and other times they seem to have a mind of their own.

3) Customer service is ABYSMAL. Somehow the hard-drive crashed on me already and I'm chalking it up to bum luck. We'll see IF I ever get the replacement. I'm not sure how it really died, as it was working fine on my commute into work, and that eve it refused to boot. So, I returned it. Seems they don't tell you anything about what is going on with your return- ie: they've actually recevived it, when a new one is coming out, etc. I sent many emails asking for any update, and they don't even update a website help location they assign to you when you get an RMA. Trying to get through to their 800 number for phone support is equally if not more horrible. I've called at various times of the day, and have spent from 30 minutes to close to 2 hours on-hold- if I even got though!

In short- the player is good, but had I to do again, I'd explore Dell, or an IPod. At least if the product has an issue with them, they have the customer service to deal with the issues.

5-0 out of 5 stars The best mp3 player out there
I bought this baby almost 2 years ago after doing extensive research on all the mp3 players out there. I'm convinced that people only buy the ipod because it is the best advertized and, therefore, trendiest. However, the iRiver puts the ipod to shame. Not only is it an mp3 player, but it is also an external harddrive. That means you can hold any files you want on it. If you want to transfer 10 movies from one computer to another, just drag em onto the iRiver and it's that simple. For those of you who want to know about the recording function (that the ipod does NOT have), I just bootlegged a concert last week. I was in the middle of the audience and I just used the external microphone it comes with, and the recording came out great for an audience recording! I had to boost up the volume a bit with a wav editing program, but the sound quality was good and clear without any maxing out. And you can record it either wav or mp3 format. Besides that, the battery life is great. The size is basically identical to the ipod, except the ipod is all white and feminine, while the iRiver is black and cooler looking with a sick blue LCD screen. All in all, if you want the best price for the best player out there, get the iRiver.

3-0 out of 5 stars its good but there ARE problems
i bought this mp3 player for 3 reasons
1. the voice recorder
2. the built in radio/ gigage
3. its something different (other than an ipod)

things that are wrong about this product
1. the catagoization of the songs. an iriver is a drag and drop system with a DB scan that will enable you to browse through artist, album, ect. the only problem is if you dont have your mp3 files properly ID Tagged it wont even recognize it. (dont get scared they will still go on the mp3 player just it will be slightly harder to find which is a slight inconvience that is noticible) and even if your files are tagged sometimes the Iriver
still wont recognize it. that was frustrating, where as the ipod has a system through itunes i believe that is somewhat better.

2. the voice recorder. it comes with an external mic and a built in mic. the problem is with the interal mic. about every 30 seconds the iriver will sahy, "load" or "refresh" and that produces a noise. so if you listen to your recorded work about every 30 seconds a distinct wizzing sound will appear. and that was extremely annoying.

3. the button control is much more complex and at sometimes confusing. i applaud the ipod for staying simple.

4. the remote gets in the way with its LONG cord. plus if it is a remote why does it have a cord at all??

5. the earphones/carrying case is a piece of crap

6. although i havent timed it out i find hard to believe that the so called 16 hour battery life actually lasts 16 hours. dont get me wrong it lasts longer than my ipod. but not 16 hours.

1. its not an ipod
2. the quality of the sound is DEFINATELY improved. much more than the ipod
3. the radio works great!
4. the radio/recorder combo if you want these in an ipod. you will have to pay extra $$
4. so some of my songs that skipped the iriver elliminated it.
5. its unique! if you buy this people will notice it and you can brag about it.
6. tech support always answers my questions within 24 hours
all in all i am pleased with this product
i would recommed it if you are a man who is very familiar with technology. if you a clueless simple guy go with the ipod. i still like it more than the ipod because it does more for me. ... Read more

5. Archos AV400 20 GB Video Player/Recorder and MP3 Player AV420
by Archos Inc. dba Archos Technologies
list price: $449.95
our price: $398.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0002IHP3K
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Archos Inc. dba Archos Technologies
Sales Rank: 1628
Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

She works fulltime like the rest of us but never misses an episode of Oprah. What gives? This 20GB video player from Archos makes recording TV and tailoring entertainment to your schedule easier—and more portable—than ever. It starts with the convenient one-time setup TV cradle. Record up to 80 hr. of video directly from TV, VCR or a cable/satellite receiver. Take the player with you on the go and watch recorded shows or videos, view digital photos and enjoy music too. It's powered by internal rechargeable Li-Ion batteries but comes with an AC charger/adapter, too. Available storage capacity may vary. 8/10Hx4-9/10Wx3-1/10D". ... Read more


  • Connects to TVs, VCRs, and cable/satellite receivers
  • Watch video on 3.5-inch LCD screen
  • Store and play MP3, WMA, and WAV digital audio files
  • Archos 500619 AV420 20 GB Video Player / Recorder and MP3 Jukebox Player
  • Record your favorite video programs--up to 80 hours on 20 GB hard drive

Reviews (28)

4-0 out of 5 stars Really Nice Device
I just purchased this device a few days ago and I have to say I am very impressed.I had been thinking about this purchase for about 6 months, doing research weighing the pros and cons, etc.I finally deceided to take the plunge and I am glad I did. It does have a few drawback but the good far out weighs the bad.I won't bore you with the obvious stuff if you are looking at this device you already have a pretty good idea what it is all about.So I will just stick with the highligts and my thoughts.

The Good Stuff

Recording VHS tapes are a snap no problems really at all quick and easy set up and you walk away and a few hours later, you have it.

Playback is incredible, it is so clear it is almost easy to forget how small it is.

The size, fits right in your shirt pocket.Can your portable DVD player do that?

Music, just send it over create playlists and you are set.Protected music too.Just add the plug in.

Pictures, again just send them over and start the slide show.

The Not So Good Stuff.

The Manual, I am pretty intuitive but even this manual left me stumped at times.But if you are patient and go over it a few times most things can be figured out pretty easily.

The TV cradle and remote, I am still trying to figure out how to get the IR transmitter to work with my VCR after about 2 hours I deceided to try again later.You can still set up scheduled recordings you just have to leave your VCR on and on the channel you want to record, not the most ideal situation but workable.

The WMP plug in, it doesn't say so but you have to download some stuff from the site and copy it to your ARCHO's then run the set up, after I figured that out it took no time at all.

Overall this is a great device, the biggest knock most people have is the encoding and transcoding of movies (getting around the whole copyright thing).I am no fan of the number of restrictions that Hollywood and the music indrusty wants to force upon us.But that is not why I bought it.I want to record tv and vhs and dvd's and watch them on the Archos and for that it works just fine.

One last thing on this whole coping DVD thing, one other nock I have heard is that to record a DVD you have to do it in real time.I hate to tell people this but to rip a DVD, it can take a few hours just to do that so the whole time issue is a moot point.DVD's take time.

4-0 out of 5 stars Great product but 20GB is not enough
It is a great product as mentioned already by other reviews.But with all these great features, the 20GB is not enough...maybe for an iPod.

Considering how bigger and heavier it is compared to most MP3 players, plus the fact that it records and stores video, sound, music, etc.. you would want to store more videos and music so you always have a wide variety of choices and minimize the need to keep on re-recording or re-connecting to your PC.Better go for the 80GB or better yet the 100GB models.

3-0 out of 5 stars Hope nothing goes wrong!!!
I gave this three stars because it is a great device, but cross your fingers if something goes wrong. Hopefully you will not have to deal with their customer service. They give customer service a whole new meaning.

4-0 out of 5 stars Great Device!Meets my expectations for Video.
This is a great little device.Very easy to figure out and the OS is intuitive and easy.I bought it a couple weeks ago after 2 months of researching and reviewing.So far, I am impressed. I wanted to take video with me when I travel and wanted a convenient way to store photos when I take a camera and leave the laptop home.

Took a look at the MSI Mega View 566, but it does not support Memory Stick Pro or provide such an adapter. They will have one this summer for that but I didn't want to wait.

The build quality seems excellent.I have mostly copied DVD's from my collection off my DVD player with absolutely no problems with either the video or audio part; no problems with dialogue matching the video.I can only assume that the "learning curve" and problems others here refer to with video is for downloaded movies from the internet which may need converting. I have put the entire series "Band of Brothers" and a couple surfing movies on this with still about 9-10 Gig left. Have not loaded any music yet.

The only reason I did not give 5 stars was due to the fact I use a Memory Stick Pro for my camera and the firmware (I have the latest as of today) apparently does not support that yet.I purchased a 4-in-1 compact flash adapter (not thiers) and with MS Pro I get an "Invalid Card" message. The technical help at Archos told me that they were having issues with Memory Stick even with their own CF adapter that they sell, and that the firmware would be updated (didn't know when, hopefully soon). He said regular Memory Stick should work, but I got the "Invalid Card" message with that too. Alas! I'm leaving for Europe next week and was hoping to use this to store photos; guess I'll have to find a place to burn CD's. But I'll still be able to watch movies on the plane!

I'll give it 5 stars when they update the firmware.Otherwise, I highly recommend this device. You won't regret it!

5-0 out of 5 stars The Best Choice!
I also did a lot of online research, and found that the Archos was the best choice for me.Samsung, MSI, RCA & Creative all make similar products, but the Archos unit makes it easy to record TV shows in from TiVo or other sources.To my knowledge, this is the only unit of this kind that has an IR Blaster to hook up to a video source.You set the timer (like a VCR) on the AV420, and at the right time, it will switch your video source to the correct channel, and record for the specified time!It was also very simple to set up a Yahoo calendar, add shows I want to record into the calendar, and drop a copy on the system folder in the AV420 unit - that creates a recording schedule, and is even easier to use than a VCR.I am convinced that for anyone that wants to take TV shows on the train, bus or to the gym, this unit is by far the best choice!! ... Read more

6. iAUDIO M3 40 GB Metal Brown MP3 Jukebox w/FM & Voice Recorder w/cradle
list price: $399.00
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0002JAWP2
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: COWON
Sales Rank: 41808
Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

iAUDIO M3 is a ultra-slim HDD jukebox with FM Radio, Voice Recorder and Direct MP3 Encoder. Carry thousands of songs in your pocket. Enjoy the highest-quality sound powered by BBE and 14 hrs of continuous playback with built-in rechargeable battery. ... Read more


  • iAUDIO M3, AC Adapter, Ext. Kit, Remote, Case, Earbuds, CD, Manual, Line-in & USB Cable, Cradle.
  • Ultra-slim jukebox of 5.3 oz, 4.08 X 2.39 X 0.72 inches body.
  • MP3, OGG, WMA, WAV Player, FM Radio, Voice Recorder, Direct MP3 encoder, USB Portable HDD.
  • Up to 14+ hrs of continuous skip free playback on a built-in rechargeable battery.
  • Sound Effects of BBE, Mach3Bass and 5 Bands EQ. Remote Controller with 6 Lines LCD.

Reviews (3)

4-0 out of 5 stars I love this SO much more than my iPod
I am a Windows user and the iPod was driving me nuts. What I wanted was an audio player that would act like a regular hard drive when connected to my computer. That's what I love about the iAudio. I connect it to my computer via USB, and drag and drop files into it. Nothing could be more simple. No jukeboxing (Music Match and iTunes), no need to tag my files.

This player does work with tags, you can switch from regular file names to tags at will. The remote has a bigger and in my opinion better display than the iPod. Updating the firmware is simple. The player supports many more file types than the iPod. It's smaller and lighter than the iPod and has more storage.

The bad? Well, I don't really care for having an in-line remote, so there is a lot of cable running around once you add in the headphone cord. The interface is no where near as good as the iPod, but I use playlists, so I don't really care about the interface as much as a person selecting songs as they go along.

5-0 out of 5 stars i audio does it again.
When the ipod came out it was unmatched. Not anymore the iaudio cranks.


40 gigs of storage.
Comes with decent headphones
Cheaper than the ipod.
More features than the ipod.

BBE Mach 3 bass equalizer.
Built in Microphone.
Ability to record and listen to FM radio (signal is weak in some places)
Line in recorder (which lets you record direct from source like tape decks and CD players.


If you lose the remote it is useless. (extra remotes can be purchased.)

Its small if you drop the unit kiss 300+ bucks goodbye.

Headphones although good could be better. Fine if you have big ears small eared folks may find earphones awkward.

Remote can be confusing. You will get the hang of it with continued use.

It is hard to find any real flaws. This unit is amazing and its unique. Don't think of it like an ipod it has its own style and flare.
I find it much better than the ipod. I gave my ipod away.

The company is small and their customer service lacks. I suggest ordering from Amazon.
The package came to me in a timely fashion but the box was damaged. The player however was fine in the box.

Those of you who may be thinking ipod might want to check out the M3.

I am 5 star satisfied with this product.

4-0 out of 5 stars A good player but not the ultimate DAP....
Basic Information

The iAudio M3 I tested has 40GB storage space. There are 3 models, called M3 and M3L. There are two M3 player, one holding 40GB and the other 20GB. The M3L has 20GB of space and has an estimate battery time of 35 hours while the M3s' estimate is 14 hours.

The player supports the formats; OGG, WMA, WAV, and MP3. The player also has a FM tuner. The M3 can record; voice, andanything played on the radio. There are alsoLine-Out/In output/input if you would need those functions.
The player is a bare bone player, to connect it to a power source or to the PC you have to use the small adapter that plugs in at the bottom. This goes also if you want to use the Line In / Line out functions. However the microphone is built in the player. For basic things such as playing files you will not need the add on.

The LCD holds 6 lines with a blue back light. There are several nice functions such as adjustable 5 bands EQ, BBE, Mach3Bass, 3D surround. It can work as a transportable HDD. Win XP will detect is an extra HDD with no additional software needed. The player out of the box supports Korean, Chinese Japanese and English characters. You are also able to change the start up screen with different ones from JetAudio.

The cradle is very stylish and the player just fits in. This ensures that there is no risk of the player moving. The design of the cradle fits perfectly with iAudio M3 in regard of the design. The 20GB M3 is smaller and I am not sure how stable it is with the cradle. However, reading from the thetechlounge.comit states that it wiggles around and might bother some users. But do not see that as discouragement to get the 20 GB one as you can use the small black add on which will not cause any problems at all.

Carrying case
The carrying case fits snugly around the M3 player. The inside of it is soft and ensures there are no scratches to your player. It also has on the back a loop so you can put the case on your belt.

The Looks
There are 3 LEDs on top of the player covered with a plastic transparent window. These LEDs indicate different functions being carried out (Charging, Playback, ect). The port for the add-on/cradle sits on the bottom covered with a small plastic plop to protect the port when not in use.
The M3 is in metallic brown with a black stripe running around the side of the player and with black surround the buttons. There are also metallic silver players. The are three buttons at the front; Play/Pause, Fast Forward/Next and Reverse/Previous. On the right side there is one button, a switch and a Jog Dial. The Jog Dial is used for navigational purposes and for volume control. The button is for recording and the switch is to put the player in hold mode. On the left you will find the remote/headphone jack. You can plug in straight the headphones into it but then you will not be able to plug in the remote.

The Player in Action
The player plays very well the files and has great Line Out quality. However, if you skip a couple of songs or you decide play a song from another album which is not in your play-list, you will have to wait couple of seconds before the file is played (2-4 seconds). The HDD makes a bit of noise when it loads the files into its buffer. However it is not loud enough to hear if you are playing some music. You can hear it a bit if you there is absolute silence and the player is around 30 centimeters from you.
There are several nice settings you can choose for you playback in the "Jet Effect" area. These are; 5 band EQ, 3D surround, Pan Effect, MP Enhance, BBE, and Mach3Bass. The earplugs given with the player will not show the players best sides.

The Remote

The remote has only 6 lines and is rather small. Meaning you have to know fairly well what files you have in your play list or in your folder to be able to find it fairly quickly. Some users might feel claustrophobic with the size; however I found it to be to on the minimum adequate. You can set the horizontal scroll to a faster speed so you can quicker read the full name of your file. You can also set to see the ID3 tags which makes it a lot easier for those with long file names but with short ID3 tags. You can hold the move button to move quicker through folders. I have many albums with the similar name with the difference being just at the end (EG,Alternative Times Vol 45,Alternative Times Vol 56) so I have to stop at the different folder names to see which album I am at. (Have to wait out the scroll to read the whole folder name). The remote has one alligator clips that holds well enough.

Line in and the line out is out of great quality and the mic is "ok", you have to be fairly close to get good quality recording.

Takes maybe 10 minutes to learn by the one who is not used to it. The interface is very easy to use.

The software is very basic and I prefer to use WinAmp for my pc and I dont use the JetShell as you can transfer music to the player with out.

FM Mode
You can have 24 pre sets, the navigation with the remote is very easy as there are not too many functions you can do. I found that it needs strong coverage to have good playback. Most stations however had a sufficient good quality to be enjoyable.
Battery Life
I get around 8-11 hours of playback time. I have my backlight set to 8 seconds and I have mostly mp3 files set at 192 KBPS.


The Good
The iAudio M3 is an excellent player, it is small, low weight, supports several format, has agood build quality with good features. You also get decent ear buds with the player, normally companies include low quality earphones. However, I did not use them as I have better earphones. JetAudio is supporting the player well via updating the Firmware giving new features and improving old ones. You get a remote, which makes your player more mobile then those with out one as it allows you easily and quickly change any setting you want with out having to take out the whole player out.

The Bad
It lacks however support for DRM files, and you are toast if you loose or break the remote. It does not have an ID3 database as the Karma does which makes going through your songs a lot easier. The remote lacks a scroll wheel making navigation from one album to another one to take up some time. And if you skip a couple of songs or play a song from another album which is not in your play-list, you will have to wait couple of seconds before the file is played (2-4 seconds) ... Read more

7. Archos Gmini XS 200 20 GB MP3Player and Recorder
by Archos Inc. dba Archos Technologies
list price: $229.95
our price: Too low to display
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0002U0JP4
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Archos Inc. dba Archos Technologies
Sales Rank: 2616
Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

Available storage capacity may vary. ... Read more


  • Package includes: Gmini XS200, USB 2.0 cable, AC power charger adaptor, headphones, quickstart sheet (in-depth manual on Gmini XS200 HD)
  • Play MP3, WMA, and WAV music files
  • Store up to 300 hours of music -- equivalent to 5000 songs
  • Quickly organize songs with the ARCHOS ARCLibrary and view by artist, genre, title and year (ID3 compatible)
  • 2-inch display level gray scale LCD, 128 x 128 pixels. 9 lines of characters Intuitive menu with icons

Reviews (19)

4-0 out of 5 stars Pretty Darn Cool
I've had mine for a few days. They put these out with firmware bugs, so I've already been to for the update which was pretty painless. Well, it's very small, almost too small for my medium sized, hands but managable. I like the bright LEDs and screen as it doubles as a night-light. I've used my kid's Ipod and have had several players including the Zen Xtra and Touch. The software used to load and manage music for these devices is a royal pain, freezing, not being able to find your device and on and on. This nice player acts exactly like a hard drive on your PC really, exactly. It will also create database inside the machine to access your tunes by the ID3 tag. So, you can look at your music as if it was on your PC in folders and files or the Gmini's library organized by Artist, Album, etc. VERY good. No clocks, alarms, or recorders, no radio, it's a very compact music player and portable hard drive, plain and simple. The sound is pretty good too, maybe not as good as the Zen, but decent for sure, with a fully adjustable 5 band EQ. The screen is real big and easy to see. The buttons feel solid and work like they should. The case is some kind of textured metal and very solid. The main joystick is a bit tiny and slippery and hard to work one handed, it needs a little square grip on it, but it works well if you can get your finger on it to push it in the right direction. The AC adapter is rather big with a huge cord which is kinda weird. The firmware, or software on the machine is a bit slow and not greatly thought out, hopefully new versions will be coming. It especially needs a better 'back' feature and faster scrolling. Battery lasts about 6-8 hours which is too bad but I guess that's where space was saved. but.. But, it looks great, feels bulletproof, sounds good, is really really easy to use and is very reasonably priced for 20GB of disk. I assume there will be tutorials online to upgrade the HDD to 100GB soon. I'm keeping mine.

5-0 out of 5 stars excellent performance and size
i wanted a reliable mp3 player----no calendar, alarm clock, or other unecessary items. the gmini performs great, has no clunky software packages, and sounds great through my home or car transfers are very fast and organizing music in folders or playlists is a snap. there is no downside as far as i can tell, especially given the price.

4-0 out of 5 stars Me too - a few small changes could make this 5 stars...
I concur entirely with the review: "a few small changes could make this 5 stars, May 9, 2005"

This device works astonishingly well.All prior issues relating to the firmware have been resolved, and if your device is not current, the firmware update is available free download at

I just returned from a desperately long trip to the Russian Far East on too many planes without any entertainment, and the XS200 was priceless and performed flawlessly.


- USB enabled recharging (this is the most obvious oversight)
- neck purse or something like it (belt case) to hang the dang thing from when seated on aircraft.
- less brilliant LED's.The blinking blue "recharged" light can wake a sleeping dog.

But, in-spite of those few gripes, I cannot believe this thing is not EVERYWHERE.

It is brilliantly easy to load - it is truly an external HDD and so you can copy mp3 format right to the drive through Windows Media (or other) players direct from CD.No fussing around.

The software is very clever, and sorts / archives ALL data available on the CD's - artist, performer, group, etc.If you want, you can play one artist's work even though it spans dozens of CD's.As well, you could store non-music data for other uses in-transit.A VERY capable device.

4.9 stars!!

3-0 out of 5 stars a few small changes could make this 5 stars
I'll start by saying that I've been shopping, comparing and testing for months.And finally, despite the few things that keep it from 5 stars, I've decided to hang onto this little gadget. (I've already returned an RCA lyra.)

It works great.I find the Explorer type file navigation and simple joystick control highly intuitive - I have yet to read the instructions.Just opened it up and started using.I love that there are no drivers or special software required.I can plug this bad boy into any computer and drag and drop my files with no problems.Also, haven't had the freezing that happened with the Lyra (except when I mistakenly loaded w4a files onto it.)

Also, you can delete, rename, and make playlists without going through your pc.

BUT- why in the hell wouldn't Archos make this thing charge through the USB cable?Especially given that the battery life is obviously shorter than other comparable devices?Now when I travel I have to remember both the USB cable AND the needlessly bulky AC adaptor.Even that cheapo Lyra charged through the USB cable!!!

The other star-eliminator is Archos' deplorable customer support.First of all, they do not list the xs 200 in their product compatibility tables on their website, meaning that if you want to order accessories such as a car lighter adaptor, you need to guess whether the one on their site will actually work for this model, which is conspicuously NOT listed in the list of compatible models.SO, you'd think that a note to customer support would solve my problem? Nope.It's been 1 month and 2 emails, and still no response.

Shame on Archos.While this price point is lower than the Ipod- it's still a big chunk of change for me. There should be more customer support. (I'd take ANY customer support!)

Last gripe- no accessories such as carrying case or sport case (armband style for running).I'm still shopping around for something I can adapt for the purpose.

Overall, I'd recommend this device.BUT, I could see how any one of the shortcomings I've mentioned could be the deciding factor to push someone in another direction.There just isn't a whole lot to choose from right now.

3-0 out of 5 stars Not an MP3 RECORDER
Despite the title, if you go to Archos website you'll find that this device is NOT a RECORDER.The Gmini 120 and Gmini 220 models are MP3 recorders.
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8. iAUDIO M3-20SL-CR 20 GB MP3 Jukebox with FM Radio and Voice Recorder with Cradle (Metal Silver)
by JetAudio, Inc.
list price: $309.00
our price: $275.49
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B00028UMN0
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: JetAudio, Inc.
Sales Rank: 4935
Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

Super-slim and portable, this all-in-one iAUDIO M3 20GB MP3 jukebox fits snugly in your palm or securely inside a pocket and holds up to 5,000 songs. Not only does the jukebox play up to 14 hours (35 hours of M3L) of continuous playback, but it also has an FM stereo radio with 20-station preset and a voice recorder with microphone. The player is also a cNet Award Winner for their new industry first, MP3 file filtering and sound enhancement technology. iAudio's proprietary MP3 chipset is now redefining MP3 sound and taking the MP3 audio experience to the next level. The player includes a wide LCD remote control that displays 6 lines of information and powerful sound effects that include BBE, Mach3Bass and 3D Surround. Jukebox can also be used as a hard disk drive to store documents, photos and any other data files. Available storage capacity may vary. Imported. 4Hx2-2/5Wx1/2L". ... Read more


  • MAC OS support for data transfer
  • Features MP3, OGG, WMA, ASF and WAV (Up to 44.1khz mono) playback, voice recording, FM radio, and direct MP3 encoding
  • Up to 14 hours pf continuous play
  • Includes AC adapter, remote, case, earbuds, CD, manual, line-in and USB Cable
  • 40 levels of digital volume control

Reviews (7)

5-0 out of 5 stars Excellent choice
I'm not going to waste space debating this vs. Ipod, etc. Instead, I'll tell you that I've been using this player for about 5 months and enjoy it very much.Pros: small size, don't need to take the whole unit out of your pocket/bag to change stuff, intuitive and easy to use controls once you get used to them, lots of extras (FM radio, voice recording, radio recording, supports Ogg Vorbis and others), frequent firmware updates (the company cares about the users of their product), good price. Cons: some people may not like the extra wire that's needed for the screen, not supported by online music stores (that last one is a biggy if you plan on buying music online- I still buy CD's and then rip them (using CDex into Ogg) and put it on this). Even though there are a few other companies that have bested this one (barely) in terms of size and battery life since it's release, I still think this player has the most to offer for its price than any other on the market. Don't be scared off by the lack of the screen on the main unit; once you use it, you really wouldn't want it any other way. Unfortunately, Amazon doesn't seem to be offering it for $259 w/o the cradle anymore (the cradle is redundant to the small adapter it comes with which is much more travel friendly, but some people like it and at $289, it's still a great deal).

1-0 out of 5 stars Wish it would have worked
I have Windows XP and I use the USB port for many devices (digi camera, printer, other audio device). This MP3 Player is advertised as XP compatable. It comes with a dedicated USB cable, and an explorer type program "Jetshell". I never could get XP or its own program "Jetshell" to recognize the device. I exchanged the MP3 player for a another new one thinking the one I had was defective. I had the same problem with the new one. I spent a lot of time with customer/tech support to no avail. (I noticed on their support forum other customers with the same problem, but no solution offered) I finally gave up and returned the unit. Too bad, it was a small, compact and attractive device. Wished it would have functioned.

5-0 out of 5 stars One of the best MP3 players
I have been reviewing the market for a multi-functional MP3 player, which could store most of my music collection. Being a student I also wanted a voice recorder that could record my class lectures. For the price and quality iAudio definitely beats everything out there. The FM radio has excellent reception, and the variable bit rate voice recorder is very beneficial. I was tired of waiting for Apple to include these functionalities in their IPOD, and when I came across the IAudio, I absolutely fell in love with it. This is a great product and is highly recommended.

5-0 out of 5 stars Don't be an IPod sheep
I was torn between the IRiver, IPod and the IAudio. The IRiver was about to go out of production and was just a bit too big so no thanks. I read sooo many reviews and came to one simple conclusion. People who buy the IPods are sheeps - Baaaah! Loads of people slated this product who hadn't even used it and they all seemed to be IPod owners - Heeelllloooo! I admit the IPod looks cool but that's about it - For the record I think the IAudio looks better!

I purchased the IAudio M3 and haven't looked back. With a pair of decent Sony headphones the sound quility is quite amazing! You get all the equipment in the box including 2 docking units, remote control and carry case. It is plug and play on any PC with Win ME plus so no need for drivers - simply drag and drop the MP3's (or any other files). Also records and has a radio....need I go on?

Don't be duped into an IPod just cos everyone else has!

Only small downfall is no screen on main unit - a very small issue.

5-0 out of 5 stars appreciated by an ex ipod user
If you are a person that is not technically inclined and is incapable of reading a manual I might recommend the iPod. However, taking the minutely more confusing path pays off exponentially. The features offered by the m3 are far more powerful and useful than those of the iPod.

Before buying the unit you might want to get familiar with possible problems, resolutions and features over at

A friend of mine uses the iRiver. The most significant difference I can find between them is the fact that the iAudio has no primary screen on the unit and looks much nicer. I am quite happy having made the change to a unit that is not a cliche status symbol (as is the iPod); the iAudio M3 is cool on its own merits not because "everybody else is doing it".

One quick reminder: update the firmware straight out of the box (if this sounds hard, don't worry; it's not) ... Read more

9. Cowon iAUDIO M3L - Digital player / recorder / radio - HD 20 GB - WAV, WMA, ASF, MPEG 1 Audio, MPEG 2 Audio, MPEG 2.5 Audio, Ogg Vorbis, MP3, FLAC - silver
by Cowon Systems
list price: $379.00
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0002JAWOI
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Cowon Systems
Sales Rank: 34015
Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

The iAUDIO M3L Hard Disc type MP3 Player features 35 hours of continuous playback, the longest playing time in the world. The iAUDIO M3L has built-in Lithium Ion Cell and a buffer to prevent a long shock for max. 12 minutes, allowing stable music appreciation even when you carry. It also supports the text viewer function so that users can see lyrics while hearing music and read a novel after storing it. It supports USB2.0 and enables to transmit large capacity of data with blazing speed of max. 480Mbps. Especially, it provides full-functional remote control adapting a large LCD with 6 lines and users can easily operate all functions such as the File Retrieval without taking it out from pocket or bag. In addition, it mounts 'JetEffect' sound field effect minutely tuning and applying worldwide BBE acoustic effect to implement sophisticated high sound quality and the user can enjoy best sound quality specific to the iAUDIO M3L at high output of 20mW+20mW. ... Read more


  • iAUDIO M3, AC Adapter, Ext. Kit, Remote, Case, Earbuds, CD, Manual, Line-in & USB Cable, Cradle.
  • Ultra-slim jukebox of 5.9 oz, 4.08 X 2.39 X 0.72 inches body.
  • MP3, OGG, WMA, WAV Player, FM Radio, Voice Recorder, Direct MP3 encoder, USB Portable HDD.
  • Up to 35+ hrs of continuous skip free playback on a built-in rechargeable battery.
  • Sound Effects of BBE, Mach3Bass and 5 Bands EQ. Remote Controller with 6 Lines LCD.

Reviews (6)

5-0 out of 5 stars Wonderful Mp3 Player
The iAudio really out did everyone with this mp3 player. It's small, compact, and lightweight. It weights practically nothing. There are a gazillion features this wonderful mechine has, including a FM tuner, a Voice Recording and a line-in recording. This is useful because if you want to hear something new instead of your music you can listen to the radio, and it is easy to even record the music from the radio to the mp3 player if you like the song. Have a memo and no pen? just record what you have to say in hifi quality on your mp3 player, and it takes about three seconds. The Line In is wonderful because you cant record a friends song to your mp3 player from there mp3 or cd player at an equal quality on the go. Plus you can record it at plenty of bitrates and it is all mp3 format, so compatibility is no issue.

But now with the actural playing. The player hase a wonderful array of features to make the music sound beautiful! It has BBE for high definition sound and MACH3BASS for wonderful clarity on lower notes. It has 3D surround sound on it as well that up-mixes the music to a mock surround sound, and it does feel like it is surrounding you. And the most wonderful thing is that it has a mp3 enhance to help bring out some of the music from compression. These things make the sound feel like it it coming from th e studio as you are listening. Litterally everything with the mp3 player is customizable, and very efficient. With the long 15 hour batter life, which i got over 20 hours out of, is marvelous, and hardly any other player out there has such amazing features like this.

The External screen is sweet. It may be small, but it has all the information on it and with the controls on it which I find very easy to use. You can't go wrong. There IS a learning curve to the thing, but it is about only ten to fifteen minutes. I clip it to the inside fo my jacket and leave the main unit in my pocket, so I don't risk breaking it and if you break the screen all it costs is 20 dollars, instead of like $90 that Apple charged me for my iPod. Yes I had an iPod, and this is simply better, not counting the fact that they are the same price. But comparing this to the iPod is an insult to the M3, so i won't do it. Go with the iAudio, and I guarantee you wont regret it. Firmware updates come very often from cowon, and keep the player at a marvelous condition for a long time.

5-0 out of 5 stars Insane MP3 Player
I don't even think they have a word for how awesome this player is.35 hour battery is why I purchased it.I had some concerns about the filesystem, boot times, display, comfort of the remote, GUI...

Everything is solid.It boots in about 4 seconds with a full player, the filesystem is a "WYSIWYG" sorta thing.Just put a directory in and its subfolders and everything will be mirrored once the player starts.There is no ID3 tagging for the filesystem, which I think greatly increases the boot time.

The remote is awesome.10 minutes with it and I felt a thousand times more receptive to using it then just a standalone player.Wow.. how do you describe something like this.I think its the best purchase I have ever made in my entire life. Everything is supereasy to navigate thanks to not 1 but 2 job wheels which help you get around.Navigating with one hand is a cinch, as you would imagine.

The fileformats this thing supports are insane.Plus being able to play .m3u's is big plus.All in all, this IS I think the first of the ipod killers.All that crap about Rio, Sony, Dell, iRiver, and Creative beings the "ones" just never happened. People got hyped before the products came out and everyone was disapointed.

Thank god I never bought an ipod. Did I mention this is smaller than the ipod?Did I mention it runs for almost 3.5 times longer than the ipod before needing a recharge?

Get one. Its worth the money.Stop messing with those brands I listed above. They DO NOT UNDERSTAND. I have owned products by Rio and Creative, both were HORRID.I read reviews that the Iriver has a horrible boot time and that the Dell is just a joke.Save up and buy a quality product.

5-0 out of 5 stars an amazing, well engineered device
This is probably the best consumer electronic item I've ever purchased. Essentially all of the best features of the iPod and iRiver are incorporated into the iAudio.

5-0 out of 5 stars A great MP3 player with few inconveniences...
I've had the player for a few months.I was planning on purchasing the ipod, but the poor battery life and the lack of additional features (such as FM radio and in voice recording) steered me away from the product.Instead I opted for the M3L which has a 35 hour battery life on a one time charge (compared to the 12 - really 8 hour battery life of the ipod).I'm not really a high tech person, but in case I ever did become one, I wanted to have the player that had the most features.
The only negative complain I have of the item is it having no screen on the unit itself.It can be a pain using the remote (it's tiny) and the wires really tend to get in the way.To avoid this I create my own playlist ahead of time and scrap the remote.Anyway, for the specs this is good, but for ease of use and portability, other players would probably beat this one out.
Also the sound is AMAZING on this player.If I were you guys I'd wait until next year when Iaudio will release an M3 with a screen on the main unit.I really should've waited for that.Anyway, hope my review helps!

5-0 out of 5 stars This machine puts the iPod to SHAME
This machine is wonderful.
Vs. the ipod, its much more friendly
It has an inline mic
also an FM tuner, which you can record from.
Its a great gadget, much better than the iPod. ... Read more

10. Samsung YH-920 Super Thin MP3/WMA Player (FM Tuner, Voice/Line-in Recording
by Samsung
list price: $349.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B00021M096
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Samsung
Sales Rank: 20186
Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

The YH-920 is the second product to be co-branded by Samsung Electronics with Napster 2.0. This innovative Digital Audio Hard Drive and Storage device is the next generation product created through this technology and marketing partnership in order to improve the experience of consumers using digital music. The Napster 2.0 device, and the fully integrated YH-920, will offer music fans access to more than 600, 000 songs from today's hottest artists, which can be transferred directly to the YH-920. ... Read more


  • Rechargeable battery with up to 10 hours of playback
  • 20 GB MP3/WMA player; also plays Audible and OGG Vorbis formats
  • Weighs only 5 ounces; just 0.65 inches thick
  • FM tuner with 40 presets; includes line-in recording capability (records to MP3)
  • Plays protected WMA files; works seamlessly with Napster Music Store

Reviews (41)

1-0 out of 5 stars Nothing but problems...
I bought this player in January, and have been able to use it less than 10 times.I have had to fix problems everytime I try to put new songs on.I have had to send it back twice--for the same problem!The second time Samsung said they would send me a new player--a week later I was sent my old one that they said they couldn't fix.Now when I call to find out what is going on, customer service says sorry, nothing we can warned if you buy this player, you may not actually get to use it, nor is Samsung very helpful.

4-0 out of 5 stars Samsung YH-820
I have this gear for more than two months since March/2005 and I am really amazed by its good quality of sounds when comparing with other no-name flash MP3 players. Its deep rich bass really give me lots of good listening pleasure.

But this gear is not perfect and be aware the following:

1. YH-820MS will only display either English and Korean characters, nothing else.If U look other foreign characters, this gear is not the one.
2. Battery time is not very good.Full bettery charge will last up to 5-6 hours. Each full charge takes close to 3.5 hours.
3. It takes close to 40 seconds to boot to have sound out
4. 2 out 10 times, booting will hang and requires hardware reset
5. It works with either Naspeter or MS's media player Version 10 only. Do not expect to drag the MP3 songs or music folder into this gear. It requires SYNC thru MS's media player and "SYNC" 1500 songs into this gear requires lots of time.

Other than these concerns, I really enjoy this gear.

5-0 out of 5 stars A Great Player
I posted a review before about how my player began messing up and deleting all of my songs. I exchanged it for a new one, and I've determined that the original messed up because I did not handle it correctly and did things like unplug it without safely disconnecting.

My new one works great. It does take forever to load all of your music, but that probably doesn't vary much from player to player. I have no complaints about my new player, as it has done everything I expected it to and has not malfunctioned at all.

2-0 out of 5 stars Buy this if you want to take it to the shop...
I have had this since December. I agree the player is cool and has good features such as the ability to record from the radio but if it breakes down what is the point? I am now having to bring in my player for the SECOND time for servicing. Not a big deal unless you want to wait a whole month for the process and if you don't have all of your music backed up... My suggestion, go with something that has been proven to work that also has good features, not this player.

4-0 out of 5 stars Samsung has more features, better price than overated IPod
It says it all in the title: fm tuner, line in / voice recording, recording directly from radio, etc.This has many of the features that the IPod is lacking.I picked one of these up last week from Office Depot for $99 after mail in rebate. What a steal!Plus it comes with a case, line in plug, cradle charger, and more.
***Do not use the Napster software.That is why I gave it 4 stars instead of 5.Stick with Windows Media Player 10.Use the sync option.Very easy and very fast transfering WMAs.It seemed to take a little while to transfer some of my mp3s.It said it had to convert the files.When you rip the files off your cds, transfer them to WMA files.
Besides that, this player is great.Good job Samsung! ... Read more

11. iRiver PMP-120 Portable Media Player (20 GB)
by iRiver
list price: $499.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0002G81J4
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: iRiver
Sales Rank: 14638
Average Customer Review: 3.0 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

Get the Big Picture!On a 3.5-inch LCD ScreenIRiver PMP-140 40GB Video PlayerThe unanimous pick here as our coolest video device, iRiver's incredible 40GB player will deliver tunes, videos and photos to your almost endless delight. Store up to 160 hours of video or 1200 hours of music! Enjoy an amazing bigscreen experience on a superb wide 3.5-inch vivid color display. Connect directly to your home entertainment system! This incredible player features built-in FM tuner, integrated voice recorder and many, many extras. Record music from any audio source without a PC! Store or transfer files of any type. The iRiver PMP-140 boasts built-in speaker, USB on the Go (you can attach it to your digital camera!), USB 2.0, Rechargeable Lithium-Ion battery with up to 10 hours of battery life for audio and 5 hours for video. The iRiver PMP-140 is an absolutely phenomenal innovation in miniaturized portable entertainment. Get the big picture. Capture thousands of hours of sound. Experience a revolution in entertainment with the iRiver PMP-140 40GB video player. ... Read more


  • Includes rechargeable lithium-ion battery; up to 16 hours (audio only) and up to 5 hours (audio/video)
  • Plays digital music and video files, including WMV, MP3, WMA, DivX (AVI), BMP, and JPEG
  • 20 GB storage total storage capacity--up to 80 hours of video, 600 hours of music
  • 3.5-inch color TFT LCD
  • USB 2.0 support, audio inputs and audio/video outputs, built-in FM tuner and voice recorder

Reviews (12)

5-0 out of 5 stars "the coolest" way to get junk "on the market"
Don't make the same mistake I did! I signed up for one of those get-iRiver-free "offers" that are continually being posted here.

Within one day, I received over 200 spam emails and 15 telemarketing calls. What a pain. I guess there really is something to the saying "you can't get something for nothing".

I hope everybody here will learn from my extremely bad experience and avoid these ridiculous pyramid schemes.

5-0 out of 5 stars coolest item out on the market! sign up here and complete the videoprofessor offer and you can get it at no cost...this is a must have item and you can get it legitly free here!!

1-0 out of 5 stars Before you decide to buy...
I've done extensive research in trying to find the perfect portable video player.From all the magazine reviews, sites like CNET and suchforth, customer reviews, and hands-on experience, I decided to purchase the MSI MEGA View 566.The MSI Mega View was one of TechTV's finalists for most innovative products at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES 2005).If the features of the iRiver PMP appeal to you, consider taking a look at MEGA View 566 (Check out the product page for more info).It has almost identical features at approximately the same price.

Like the iRiver, the MEGA View 566 can play mp3, wma, wav, divx (avi), mpg, and your digital photos.It has a built-in FM tuner, voice recorder, an A/V Input and Output with composite video to record video from TV or other sources and so you can view files on your television set.You can rest the player on the tripod that is included.Unlike the iRiver, an extra battery is included for more playtime on those longer trips!Since playing with the unit a few weeks ago, I can't get enough!

If you're still researching for the perfect player, take a minute and check out the MSI MEGA View 566.

1-0 out of 5 stars Annoying!Avoid, avoid, avoid!
I was very excited to get this player as a holiday gift.I was looking forward to watching the TV shows I recorded using Windows Media Center edition on it.But this turns out to be impossible - the PMP-120 runs a Linux operating system and does NOT convert recorded TV files (*.dvr-ms) and moreover it won't sync with Windows Media Player 10, which would in fact convert such files.

I spent five hours trying to set it up to watch TV and only learned this sorry fact through extensive Googling.Certainly I could not learn this from the embarassing manual or from the poor automated help service at iriver itself, nor from the 800 number (I spent 45 minutes on hold then gave up).

Apparently the PMC-120 (PMC not PMP) is in fact Windows Media Player compatible, but at this point I'm not sure I'll trust another Iriver product, because their support is so poor.

Stay far, far away from this!

4-0 out of 5 stars Finally a PVP that I can tolerate
I had bought Creative PVP sometime back, but had to return it bcoz it uses Microsoft Media Player. Wrong media player choice. It makes the whole process of uploading media very tiresome and slow. So i returned the Creative.I checked iRiver at the store and found that it did NOT use Windows Media Player. SoI bought it. I have been playing with it over the past couple of weeks. It provides a DIVX codec software and associated media converter software, that makes importing videos easy. Use the Portable Media Center DIVX profile, when coverting videos.I use the AVI format to upload videos onto the player. It is also a full featured mp3 player, voice recorder and a fm tuner. The speakers are little bit low in volume, so have to use headphones in noisy situations. The fit and finish of the hardware is not as nice as Creative. The software has some spelling mistakes such as "FM Tunner" instead of "FM Tuner". But at the end of day, it does what it is supposed to do. And it provides all the software and cables right out of the box.I am in process of creating a PC based DVR solution, to capture and record live TV. iRiver will then become my portable video system. iRiver can also send video signal's to TVs through a provided port and cables.Provides USB Master port capabilities to interact with other USB port capable devices, without using a PC. It comes with a nice hard case, that U can use to carry it around and to even prop it up while watching it on an airplane. Battery is removable type, so u can buy an extra one, if U are on a really long flight. PVP space is still evolving fast, so expect to see lots more new models coming out in next couple of months. If like me, u want one right away, iRiver is an reasonable choice. You will need some experience in media conversion to successfully import videos in a watchable format. Experiment with video sizing, audio mixing etc till u get it right.iRiver has also released another PVP that uses Windows Media Player. Do not buy that, unless you have a full featured Windows Media Center PC.

An update to the review. Using Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 80 Video capture device (USB based) and excellent Pinnacle Video Capture Software, I have been able to successfully capture TV output and import into iRiver. I had to reconvert the Dazzle AVI output files to iRiver AVI using the iRiver media converter software. Now I have a complete portable video solution. I am a bit surprised it all actually worked. I was even able to capture HD channel outputs from my DISH TV satellite box using the AV components in the back of the satellite receiver. ... Read more

12. Creative Labs NOMAD Jukebox 3 20 GB MP3 Player
by Creative Labs
list price: $299.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B000068OJM
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Creative Labs
Sales Rank: 25852
Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

With more than 3 times the storage of any other Jukebox, the NOMAD Jukebox 20GB takes portable audio to a whole new level. Finally, you can take your entire digital music collection with you wherever you go. Store up to 340 hours of music in WMA format; that's like having a 250+ disc CD changer with you all the time! Create custom playlists for your commute, the gym, parties, presentations, your life. Never swap another CD again. The NOMAD Jukebox supports standard MP3, WMA, and WAV formats and is geared for access to future audio formats, too. Upgradeable technology allows new features and enhancements to be downloaded to it when available. With NOMAD Jukebox, you can keep up with the ever-evolving world of digital music and be on the cutting edge of digital audio technology. ... Read more


  • Super fast SB-1394/FireWire (IEEE-1394 compliant) and USB 1.1 file transfers from your PC
  • Up to 22 hours of uninterrupted playback with two lithium-ion rechargeable batteries
  • 20 GB storage space holds up to 8,000 songs encoded in WMA at 80 kbps or 5,000 MP3s encoded at 128 kbps
  • High audio quality (relative to other MP3 devices): 98 dB signal-to-noise ratio playback, frequency response of 20 to 20,000 Hz
  • Analog and optical digital line inputs for direct high-quality recording from external audio devices

Reviews (112)

4-0 out of 5 stars This Player Made it Through the War!
So, I got a Jukebox 3 for Christmas two years ago.Since then, I took it with me backpacking for six months around the world, use it daily at work, take it with me whenever I travel, use it as my home stereo, and generally beat the hell out of it.I've dropped it multiple times on hard surfaces, and exposed it to heat, cold, and almost anything you can think of.I am so impressed with this product and its durability.

Sure, there are some drawbacks to the Jukebox 3.It does not have the stylish look of the Jukebox Zen or an iPod.It is bigger and bulkier than either of these devices.However, in some ways I think that actually works in the Jukebox 3's favor: I feel totally comfortable leaving it sitting around at work, because it basically looks like a cheap CD player.I think of it like inadvertant theft-prevention.

Here are a couple things I dislike.The power button has a stick to it, so I need to wiggle it to make it pop back out again.Not a very well-designed button, but it's a pretty easy thing to deal with.The syncing software freezes up when I try to back up my whole music library.I havn't really figured this one out yet.Those are the only two things keeping me from giving it five stars.

So, I would highly recommend buying this product.For less money than an iPod I feel that I got much more.I have a friend who has an iPod, and the one-way nature of it plus the fact that it does not record drives him absolutely nuts.He is actually jealous of my player!

5-0 out of 5 stars Took it all over the world, and it still works
I have read a lot of negative reviews on this system and would just like to add my own Imput. I bought my NJ3 in SEP 02. I took it with me to Afghanistan for 7 months. Afghanistan happens to be the worse place for Electronics in the worlds. Dust and filth... Just Awful. I dropped my player quite a few times. Took it with me on missions. Used it every single day. After 2 years my player still works perfectly. Its worn beyond belief but still works fine. Just letting all of you know these units are as tough as them make them....

5-0 out of 5 stars Everything I expected
I've owned my Nomad Jukebox for about 2 years now, and it has served me very well.Whereas the Jukebox 2.0 version was unstable, this unit has caused me no problems whatsoever.The sound quality is good, the interface is intuitive, and the thing just keeps working without a hitch.The battery life is pretty good, as well, which is always a point of contention with portables.Overall, I'd really recommend this unit.

1-0 out of 5 stars for the love of god, don't buy it
Having had my jukebox for 5 months until it absoutely died, leaving me with a large space in my pocket and the loss of music I'd spent hours transferring, I have to say that the fragility of this player absolutely negates any enjoyment you might have while it works.My player was very gently used, it now only boots in Rescue Mode and gives me a 'hard disk problem' message for all functions on that menu.Creative technical support insists that the player must have been dropped (which is apparently enough to completely destroy the hundred-dollar hard drive) and the warranty does not apply - you have to pay for all repair - over two months after the date of purchase.In a case like mine this probably means paying about half the original cost of the jukebox to replace the hard drive with a new one under a similarly scanty warranty.For the investment value of an mp3 player, my jukebox leads me to believe that you'd be better off with an I-Pod.Don't buy it.

1-0 out of 5 stars Don't Waste your Money!!!!
Bought this product one night before a trip that was to last me 2 weeks.I stayed up until 1:40am in the morning trying to figure out how this product worked, only to end up getting an error message on the player that don't me the hardware was not working.I cannot belive that i wasted an entire friday night trying to figure out this piece of junk.ON a plus side the software that it comes with was excellent at making MP3s. ... Read more

13. Archos Gmini 400 20 GB Digital Audio/Video Jukebox
by Archos Inc. dba Archos Technologies
list price: $349.99
our price: Too low to display
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0002U0JPE
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Archos Inc. dba Archos Technologies
Sales Rank: 1037
Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

Calling the Gmini400 from Archos merely a music player is like calling the Grand Canyon a pothole. This quality music player offers more than sound output. Start with a color LCD display for viewing photos and music videos. Add a built-in CompactFlash reader for storing photos and data and the ability to play Mophun games. You can also connect to your TV to view and share photos and watch videos. It's ultra slim, and ultra light and the cool, silvery aluminum cover and distinct horizontal design show it's no fashion dweeb either. Play multiple formats, connect to your stereo, watch, listen and enjoy! Available storage capacity may vary. 7/10Hx4-1/5Wx2-2/5D". ... Read more


  • 20 GB hard drive stores up to 300 hours of music
  • Play MPEG4 video back on the 2.2-inch LCD or connect to a TV
  • Built-in CompactFlash slot
  • Archos 500637 Gmini 400 20 GB Digital Audio/Video Jukebox
  • Hard drive-based digital audio and video player and gaming device

Reviews (36)

4-0 out of 5 stars Pretty good..
First impression of Gmini 400. I got this player 2 days back and here is my first impression.

The utility value of this device is amazing.This could surely keep you entertained for a while with its video capabilities and its primary function of mp3 play. Here is some information that could help your decision
a) You can copy photos directly from your flash memory card.
b) You have the ability to add this as an external drive to the pc and directly deal with the files.
c) Audio recording is possible.
d) Though there is NO inbuilt FM tuner, with the add-on it should be possible. I am yet to try this. I read this is a pretty useful add on and gives you the ability to record music off your Radio. Also the buffering feature of the add-on helps record the entire song, even if you could manage to start recording after the song has played for a few seconds.
e) The video picture resolution is great and it is very much watchable. With the new firmware release (version 2.1 released in may-05) plays many of the video formats (.avi files). Please make sure to download and install this version of firmware or the latest before you try to play your own video files. Some of the movie clips that did not play initially worked after I installed this firmware.
I heard this has fixed a few other bugs apart from providing the capability to play videos of many formats.
f) More information about this device, tutorials on many 'how to's, other expriences can be found at these links -- a community site -- more than 200 user comments.

The Cons..

a) The controls are not intuitive..should consult the manual often.
b) THe back button does not always take you to the previous screen and sometimes takes you to the page where u initially came from..

5-0 out of 5 stars Greatest Gadget!
This Media Player is Fantastic.

I've settled with listening to my MP3 player at the gym for several years now. What would come in handy doing those long boring cardio workouts is to be able to watch a video right there, and not be stuck with whatever is playing on the TV gym.The versatile Gmini makes video very portable.I wanted something similar in size to an Ipod, but with much more to offer.Music alone isn't enough anymore.

Portability was a big factor for me, so realistically, the 3.5" inch or larger screen media players seemed too bulky to watch videos doing cardio, then slapping it on my arm to listen to music working out.This device is perfect.

Videos on The screen look excellent.
After a quick lesson in converting files, you'll watch your 3 gig file shrink down to about a 300mb file with excellent quality.Dragging and dropping files into the Gmini is simple.Excellent sound quality.

This thing is GREAT.

5-0 out of 5 stars Ho my!!!
This is the best mp3 player, photo viewer; game device; and video player. Or is it the best video player, photo viewer, game device, and mp3 player?. Like most all-in-one devices the buttons are design to be suitable for all tree functions, which makes it a little ackward to operate, it seems almost that the device was design mostly for game playing. Once you get the hang of it is very easy to navigate, although you have to hold it with both hands.
>very good sound
>videos play amazingly good, very smooth and if encoded at the right settings will sound excellent. You will need the divx codecand pocketdivxencoder which are freelly available tools.
when encoding video:

>run pocketdivixencoder, choose archos device in the first window, then on the next window that opens up choose the one on the far left hand side. then click ok when promps alerting you that the resolution is only up to 352x258.
>change video quality to 15
>audio quality to 8
>output dimentions to 252x184 (click where it says change)
You are ready to watch videos, keep in mind that this settings are optimal only to be viewed on the device not so good when sending the singnal out to the TV. for that you would have to increase video quality and output dimentions, but when you do that also the size of the file increases quite a bit.
So rule of thumb better resolution bigger file size.
The source of my videos where from files encoded mpeg2
The original file was 700 megabytes and it was reduced to a mere 70 megabytes. ( which is like half hour worth of video)
I described here many things that might be helpfull for people that bought this thing with the intention to watch videos. Once you get the thing working you won't ever get tired of using it.
I use it all the time except for games, all in all an excellent gadget.

5-0 out of 5 stars Why buy an IPod
Bought it, love it!!!
Facing the media bias in favor of IPods, I thought I'd give a word for my Archos Gmini 400. There was about 6 months ago a full on article about how IPods will add the feature of picture viewing on their equipment. Big Deal!!! Archos has been selling multimedia player able to dipslay pics and view movies for a while now. The argument of the form factor is not valid anymore with the Gmini400 which is as small as an IPod. The truth is this little player does it all and more.
I strongly recommend it.

5-0 out of 5 stars Archos Shrinks Down To Compete with King Apple
While all of Archos's products have been great, the gmini really raises the bar. With a bundle full of features including full movie and music playback, as well as games and picture viewing, the Gmini 400 beats all other units of its type. Also the fact that it has a compact flash slot leaves it with unlimited storage capabilities. I have transfered and watched many movies on the unit with no problem. Music transfer is suprisingly fast and battery life has been great as well. I really feel that the Gmini400 has really overcome any product out there and while the price is slightly greater then some other units, its well worth it! ... Read more

14. Archos 500512 Video AV120 with Digital Video Recorder 100 Module
by Archos, Inc.

Asin: B00009YUOE
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Archos, Inc.
Sales Rank: 41485
Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

TV shows on the go! The ARCHOS AV120 Video Recorder is the first handheld personal entertainment center. It combines a modular MP4 video player and recorder, MP3 music player and recorder, digital photo wallet and data storage in a compact device that fits in the palm of your hand. With the enclosed DVR attachment, you can record off your television, VCR or camcorder directly into MP4. What you will playback is an AVI format file with MPEG4-SP VHS quality video and MP3 stereo sound. To make recording even easier a remote control is supplied with the JBM Digital Video Recorder. While a standard tape can only hold 2-4 hours of video, your Jukebox has a 40 hour capacity, depending on the resolution you choose. More than enough to enjoy your favorite movies while on the move or, to take video information with you for your work. Complete MP3 functionality is also included: record directly into MP3 from any audio source! Listen to your MP3 tracks from the AV120 Video Recorder connected to your home stereo, or take your tunes with you. You never need be without your favorite music as your entire CD collection fits on the Jukebox' hard disk, in the palm of your hand! The built-in microphone also enables you to use the AV120 Video Recorder as a voice recorder providing 1,000 hours capacity. Use the AV120 as a photo wallet and viewer. The Jukebox can store up to 200,000 photos for easy viewing by your family, friends, customers or colleagues. ... Read more


  • Combination modular MPEG-4 video player, MP3 music player and recorder, digital wallet, and date storage device
  • Enjoy anywhere 40 hours of near-DVD quality MPEG-4 video with MP3 sound
  • Built-in microphone enables you to use the AV120 as a voice recorder providing 1,000 hours capacity
  • Stores up to 200,000 photos for easy viewing by your family, friends, customers or colleagues
  • Compatible with Windows 98 SE, ME, 2000, XP, or Mac OS 9.2 or X or later

Reviews (4)

3-0 out of 5 stars Watching my money go down the drain!!!
This is the second one of these I purchased for my son.The first one was the AV120 - this one is the AV 140. The first one accidentally dropped on the carpet and the plazma in the screen distorted all images.It is extremely sensitive and for the price you would think that it would be able to withstand a little more shock.The second one I purchased was an AV140 seemed to fair slightly better.Although, after about a month (without being dropped) the screen plazma started to bleed into the screen.This has not been a product to rave about.

The software that came with it is the second part of the nightmare.It releases enough spyware on your computer to cause major problems.

My son is very disappointed, I'm extremely pissed.

1-0 out of 5 stars JUNK!
This review is for the Archos Jukebox 10 GB MP3 Player which seems to have been discontined, and I am posting this only to warn others like me who look at those oh-so-futuristic images of the product and then kiss their money goodbye!

The short story: The Archos Jukebox 10 is a mediocre, grossly overpriced mp3 player whose manufacturers had the good sense to hire a brilliant photographer.

The not-so-short story:
1) It only looks futuristic on a web page...just hold one in your hands to see that up close, it looks like one of those clunky east european electronic devices with awkward panels of buttons that move (even when u r not operating them!) like the loose teeth of a kid!

2) At just casual contact with another electronic device (in my back pack), its paint peeled off in a large swathe...flimsy painting job. Underneath was disturbingly cheap plastic.

3) And not just the outside...inside is an even more pathetic story. Although I have handled it with kidgloves, the device throws up the most crazy glitches for no reason whatsoever. In the middle of playback, it skips tracks and sometimes just hangs (like a PC) for no obvious reason.

4) Unreliable OS. Don't even depend on its recording capability. I once recorded an interview with it (so I could transfer the mp3 file to a webpage) and within 5 mins in to the interview it just spluttered...and shut down. When I rebooted, the file was just not there! Yes, I had charged the battery to full before the interview began. So if you are recording something critical an analog taperecorder is cutting-edge compared with the Archos.

5) To be fair, it has its uses : as an mp3 player (even if a mediocre one) and as a spare hard disk.

All said, the Archos is not even worth the time I spend writing this unfavorable review, but if it will help even one reader out there, I would think it was worth my time.

4-0 out of 5 stars Great Player, But Bad Batteries!!!
Well, I bought a AV120, and I have filled half of it already. It has great tech. Videos & photos can be seen clearly in color, and the screen isn't that small. All the description Amazon fives explain what it does clear enough, but the only problem it has are the batteries. In a way, it'd be better to have a discman or cd player, for you can change when they expire, but with the Jukeboxes, you have to charge them. On the manual, it says you have to do it for 3hr, but it doesn't explain or tell how much they will last. I charged it for 2hr, and that was how long it lasted, but what if you go on an 8hr trip, and there is nowhere to charge the batteries? Try changing the batteries? that's a good idea, but you have to take the screws, and that ain't as easy. But besides this little defect, it id great. If you'll use it for short trips, it's a great aid to keep you entertained

5-0 out of 5 stars Does everything it says it does
The Jukebox works fine and does every thing it can perfectly. Its quite an amazing device giving the fact that you can watch clear DVD quality movies on that little screen and record directly off of a TV, computer etc.This is alot more convenient than buying a portable DVD player and bringing that on an airplane, train etc.
It is extremly simple to use, if you have a current version of Windows (or mac) , than all you have to do is plug it into your computer's USB, and it will then instantly pop up as a second harddisk on your computer screen (for example, in the My Computer folder in windows).Archos definitly hit the spot in the Ease of use catagory.GREAT as a Laptop companion. I have been able to store more than 45 CDs on my Juke box (I have the 20gb model) and I still have used up only 1/4th of the space on Mp3 format(yes, the music plays clearly and their is a whole menu where you can adjust Bass, Treble, pitch etc. Great on Storage

The only problem I have with jukboxes (yea, all jukeboxes) is that you still can not take this to places where you will be away from AC power, or places where the Jukebox could get damaged. I have recently taken the Jukebox to Austrailia and back, and it has been great on those long flights, but you would have to watch your battery life. (with a cd player, you just have to replace those affordable Alkaline batteries, not with Jukeboxes). It has also has been great on space. It is nearly a hundred times smaller than a CD player + all the CDs you have to carry with it. .

So in conclusion the Archos AV 120 / 140 is PERFECT for home and office use, short trips and short airplain flights. It is also good for vacations where you know you would be visiting a AC power socket for re charging the battery. The only place where the Jukebox does not belong are places where it could get damaged (example, boating) or places where you would be away from power, in those cases, you should take your more durable CD player.

I find Archos AV 120/ AV 140
A Highly Recomended Product ... Read more

15. Rio Riot 20 GB MP3 Player (MP3/WMA)
by Rio
list price: $199.99
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Asin: B0000633E0
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Rio
Sales Rank: 9277
Average Customer Review: 3.0 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

You spoke, SONICblue listened. The Rio Riot was designed to meet the demanding needs of today's music lover. With a 20 GB drive that stores over 400 complete albums of impressive, high-quality music, and the intuitive Rio LogiTrack interface, the Rio Riot is the perfect player for your entire music collection. ... Read more


  • Rio DJ remembers your favorite songs and creates custom mixes
  • Built-in FM tuner with custom presets
  • Windows and Mac compatible
  • 20 GB digital audio player stores over 400 albums at high-quality setting
  • Supports both MP3 and WMA files

Reviews (157)

5-0 out of 5 stars Great player
This is a great mp3 player easy to use and operate.easy to organize your songs into your own personal playlists.the cost is alot cheaper then the other mp3 player and a lesser of a quility. i would recommend this mp3 player to anyone buying one.

3-0 out of 5 stars A good player but not the best
I've had this unit since they were first introduced which was just pre-iPod.I would say for the money you should shop around, although this is an okay unit.Transfering is slow and not always error free but it gets the job done.A unit with firewire or USB 2.0 would be better.I have no plans on replacing my Riot as long as it works but by the time I do there will be plenty of options.

3-0 out of 5 stars Excellent and awful at the same time
How can a device with such an amazing interface be so awful?

If you get over the glitches and squeeks when you play back a lot of your tracks then let me know. I have tried everything including the new drivers and copying time and time again. Even lowering the quality of my tracks did not help.

However what a cool interface, play tracks you've not heard for a long time, your favourites etc etc.

Battery, I trained it and realised you have to charge it when it is on and not turned off. Now I don't have any problems its always on.

Rugged, simple although I'd like to be able to take the tracks off.

I'd compare it with my archos av420 but its a little unfair. Apart from the interface the archos beats it in every way.

Buy an archos!

5-0 out of 5 stars Rockin' in the Semi-free world
I bought a Rio Riot one month before shipping out to serve in Iraq. I spent that month transferring my entire music collection to the device. It saved my life. I had 5'500 some songs on it and it never left my side. A friend of mine had one and the first month we were there his was run over by a Hummer and was cracked all to pieces, but it still worked and now he has it in a display case with some other trophies. This device is rugged, durable, and one heck of a music player. I would like to say it took a bullet for me, but that honor goes to my Kevlar.

4-0 out of 5 stars Tons of hard-disk
I bought mine from an ebay seller. It was a refurbished unit. I am very happy with this model. Not pretty, but very functional. I download my music from online and direct from my CD's.Great sound.I use it when I workout.Very satisfied. Again lot's of hard-disk for tons of songs. ... Read more

16. RCA Lyra 20 GB Jukebox MP3 Player
by RCA

Asin: B00006JINE
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: RCA
Sales Rank: 32979
Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

Take your 20 GB hard drive with you wherever you go. The lightweight and compact design of this Lyra Personal Jukebox make it easy to enjoy your favorite mp3 files all over town. With 20 GB of storage you'll run out of tunes before you run out of space. Not only is this totally awesome device all you need to listen to your favorite digital tunes, it will also store your all important word processing files, presentations, spreadsheets and other computer files. ... Read more


  • Can also be used for storing presentations, spreadsheets and other computer files
  • Lighweight, compact design makes it easy to enjoy MP3 files anywhere
  • Store MP3 and WMA files on 20 GB internal hard drive
  • Supports drag-and-drop transfers; USB connection for faster downloads
  • Create custom, on-the-fly playlists

Reviews (45)

5-0 out of 5 stars One Tough Machine
I have had my lyra for about 3 years now, im a coach bus driver.
to say my lyra has been thru HELL would be an understatement, it has been droped bonched around rained on and frozen more then once, but it keeps going and going and going,
the energizer bunnie has nothing on my lyra. i think finding songs and playing music is a snap, and as for the guy that was complaining about the buttons getting hit, try the little switch on the side marked button lock, it works great to. in closing this little work horse can take what ever you can dish out.

2-0 out of 5 stars Only OKAY
I like to listen to classical music, and the RCA Jukebox is NOT the right MP3 player for classical.It is very hard to hear soft music, as the volume does not go up very high.Also, it is easy to hear the noises on the hard drive.The mP3 player is very bulky.One of the worst parts is that it doesn't work if it gets cold.Even in the summer, it might not work in intense air conditioning.The soft ware that comes with the jukebox is also hard to learn how to use.You have to pay more to upgrade it if you want any of the advanced features!I would maybe try the iPOD mini instead.The 20 GB hard drive is really appealing, but I doubt that that much storage is necessary for the average user.

3-0 out of 5 stars The low price makes it worth it for some people
Good things I have to say: It holds a ton of songs and for the low price it will be worth it for some people. The battery lasts about 8 hours and charges relatively fast. If you like to jog, it won't skip or have problems from rigorous movement. It allows you to make playlists while you are listening to music, which is pretty fun. After I downloaded the right drivers and software, it worked pretty well with my computer, though this may be complicated for some people.

Problems I have had with it: It cuts off the first second of every song, this is the most annoying problem it has. If you have the volumn turned down lower then half, you can easily hear the hard drive noise through your headphones/speakers. It sometimes stop playing and locks up entirely. You can't even turn it off when it does that. The only recourse is to hit the "Reset" button which can only be reached with a safety pin or similer thin object. After adding most of my song library, which was only 15 GB, it made the "Play All" setting unusable, because it takes too long to switch between songs. Even though the headphone design is very comfortable and has good quality sound, after 2 months one of the speakers broke which made them unusable.

I managed to buy this for $35 new from sears, so the extremely low price is the only reason I didn't take it back. If you demand excellence in your electronic products, stay clear of this player.

2-0 out of 5 stars Amazingly Poor Design
I'm going to give this product its deserved kudos in the beginning here so I can saturate the rest of the review with the negative this product also deserves.The windows-friendly removable hard-drive design is nice, and this product is fairly cheap.

Of course, it acts wonky and unpredictable.I would select a folder to play and it would refuse to just play the damned thing.After each song it would stop playing and change the mode to "repeat all".I have no clue why, either.USB 1.1 transfers are painful, and the transfer interface isn't exactly CONVENIENT for overnight transfers.Profiling the player takes an eternity, and you have to do it twice (unless i misunderstood how this thing works).

It's absolutely spellbinding how user un-friendly the case is.what is this case?It's horrible.I can't fathom its purpose.I stare at it night after night, trying to explain to myself what human being could have possibly made such a piss-poor design decision.Ugly.Bulky.Hardly protective.Inhibitive.Obnoxious.Ridiculous.Why?I have some old socks I could have used that might have fit better.

But (forgive me for jumping around) the worst aspect is definately the actual interface.There is no logical system.An iPod, or Rio Riot, has a system.Things are organized based on a hierarchy.Menus are layed out in a coherent pattern.This goes BEYOND learning curves, because accessing your music is just not convenient or intuitive.It's like standing on your head to work your coffee maker.

I have no idea why you'd by this flaky piece of garbage.There are other products in the price range with a better reliability record as well as more features.Don't waste your money.

4-0 out of 5 stars Good, with some fiddling
I was able to get this on close-out at Sears for about $200.So far, overall I'm happy with it (after 2 weeks) and plan to keep it.Here's my 2 cents about it:

1.Great sound quality
2.Battery life does last at least 15 hours
3.Organizes well
4.Does resume to last song played--starts at the beginning of the song
5.Metal case, very solid feeling
6.Great accessories included (except the case)

1.I play mostly WMA files, needed to upload quite a bit of firmware updates to make it work.
2.Needs to be reset now and then--but soft reset still keeps most of your settings (except backlight, equalizer settings)
3.Can get slow during shuffle mode
4.Can slow down when turning off

I purchased this to use in the car with the Belkin Tunecast II.It serves its purpose well, has been reliable after setting up.

A note about the Belkin Tunecasts, "II" seems to be slightly more amplified, but I'm not really that impressed with the clarity of either, as they both have quite a bit of distortion, at least driving around southern california. ... Read more

17. Archos Jukebox 20 GB Digital Audio Player/Recorder/Hard Drive 500277
by Archos, Inc.
list price: $299.99
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Asin: B0000633EO
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Archos, Inc.
Sales Rank: 20397
Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars
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The Archos Jukebox Recorder 20 combines an MP3 recording device with a 20 GB hard drive for storing up to 330 hours of MP3 audio. Merge your entire collection of MP3s and CDs onto one handheld device. Slip it into your pocket, and listen to all your favorite music wherever you go.

You can record from any analog or digital source at bit rates up to 160 Kbps, and you can port your recordings back to your PC without any specialized software. The Jukebox Recorder 20 hard drive doubles as a portable 20 GB hard drive for PC or Mac laptops and desktop computers to store all your data, images, and software. The Jukebox Recorder 20 is compatible with USB 2.0, with up to a 480 MBps transfer rate; it's also backwards compatible with USB 1.1. (Note that if using a USB 1.1 connection, the maximum transfer rate you can expect is 12 MBps.)

There's no need for special software to download MP3 songs--just drag and drop MP3 files from Windows Explorer or from the Mac desktop. Update with a simple click at the Archos Web site and download the latest firmware that supports additional software extensions.

The Jukebox Recorder 20 is powered by either AC power (adapter included) or four AA batteries. It also comes with stereo headphones, carrying pouch, USB cable, master software, and driver diskette. ... Read more


  • USB 2.0 interface for transfer rate up to 480 Mbps
  • Supports MP3 files; Windows and Mac compatible
  • Dual 20 GB digital audio player and hard drive
  • Stores over 330 hours of CD-quality music, or approximately 500 albums
  • 2 MB memory buffer stores from 30 to 100 seconds of music to prevent interruptions

Reviews (172)

1-0 out of 5 stars Rarely works
I have used my device rarely for 2 yrs, sent it for service but with little improvement. Problem seems to be that it can't do anything useful like sound recording or connecting to computer while batteries are charging, and the charging takes 15 hours while useful time is 1-2 hours.

5-0 out of 5 stars 2 years on and still going strong!
It's been almost 2 years since I bought this mp3 player... and I bought it used, so who knows how long it had been used before that, and under what conditions.

Two weeks ago, I got new batteries for the player, as the included batteries had gotten down to about 2.5 hours of play time. I bought a set of 4 Energizer batteries here on amazon (they're relatively cheap here too!), and now, i probably get 12 hours of battery life.

I used to get worried when my player got down to about 30% battery life. Now i see that and i think "oh well, i'll charge it tomorrow night or something." So that's amazing.

The harddrive is almost full. I've got about 1 gig left. Every CD i own is on this player right now, along with a bunch of DJ mixes and whatnot. I'm hoping to get a 40gig laptop harddrive and replace the 20 sometime soon. Just a note, I own probably 300-400 CDs... so... it wasn't easy to fill this thing.

Also, if you've got this player, you should consider getting the iM2 speakers from Altec Lansing (get them here, and get them used, if you're smart). Those things get really loud for the size, and the color scheme actually matches the Archos! It's replaced my boombox in one swoop, and made vacations music-filled again.

For playlists, I recommend Winamp. Its free and easy. I just started getting into playlist making, and there's NOTHING like hopping into your car, hitting play, and knowing you've got 250 songs from various artists coming in random order (shuffle, of course).

So to wrap this up, I'll give you some essentials that I've learned from using this player over the years:

1) Download RockBox, and use it. The list of improvements is a mile long, and not subtle. For one, it shortens the time from power on to playing from about 30 seconds, to about 4.

2) Altec Lansing iM2 speakers

3) for car use, your options at this point are:
a) cassette adapter
b) in-dash cd player with Aux In (i got one! woo!)
c) fm transmitter (dont get this, it is a WASTE of money, and a gimmick to boot)

4) can anyone find a slightly more attractive carrying case than the "fanny pack" looking one that comes with it? that would be golden.

All in all, a great player, very durable, very upgradable, not for the computer illiterate.

1-0 out of 5 stars Keep looking...
I have had mine for about a year and a half now.It is reliably unreliable.There are bad sectors on the drive (apparently of Hitachi manufacture), which are uncorrectable and often result in unrecoverable data.The drive seems to panic unpredictably during data transfers (clicks, thrashes, locks up my computer for minutes at a time or until I reboot it), even when it is fully powered up and has been connected to the power cable for hours.This is the least reliable hard drive I've ever seen.

I bought it because it was supposed to be easier to see this drive in Linux than the Creative or Apple MP3 players.I also liked the idea that you can download the open-source Rockbox software to improve the functionality of the player.I wish now that I had just paid the premium for a better designed product.The factors on which I based my purchasing decision are moot if the product itself doesn't work for squat.I'm staying away from Archos from now on and hoping I don't get burned the next time I pick an MP3 player.

4-0 out of 5 stars Dated Jukebox Still Satisfies
Though it's getting kind of dated already (gee, has it already been two years?), the Archos Jukebox Recorder 20 is still my favorite electronics device I own. It has incredible sound for an MP3 player, let me say. I love its look and feel and the navigation is very user friendly and natural, in my opinion. It also seems to be quite sturdy, as I've dropped it several times without a problem.

Also, a note about its versatility: The early Jukebox models like this are really nice for people who are into customizable music collections, variable bit rate MP3s, etc. If you want to also, you can download the Rockbox hack for the Jukebox. It's basically an open source OS for the Jukebox that replaces the lackluster ARCHOS software. This adds much capability to your player, including gaming software, added functionality, battery life extension, customizeable sound, etc. Just do a search for it online.


- Wonderful full-spectrum sound.
- Large storage space (it might as well have been unlimited for me)
- Great for people who are in to customizing their MP3 collection, using open source, etc.
- Easy menu system
- Batteries are replaceable, so you could keep it forever.

- Heavy, heavy, heavy
- Initial software is limited, though Rockbox software is great.
- ARCHOS product support is bad, from what I know.

4-0 out of 5 stars How music saved my life
It's not an iPod. It isn't sleek, sexy, and white. It doesn't boast a fancy interface or clever dragging-your-finger-across-roughened-bits controls or third-party aftermarket add-ons or anything like that. Let's be honest with ourselves, the Archos is not made to be a fashion statement. It's made by people who want something to tinker with.

I purchased mine retail about 18.545 months ago and I can't say that I've ever been seriously unhappy with it. It weighs a ton and is the size of a couple of packs of cigarettes at least, so carrying it around gave me a nice little workout. The LCD screen is high enough contrast to show up well even under the searing light of the midsummer sun, and though the controls are a bit plasticky and sometimes hard to deal with, the interface is intuitive to anyone who's ever used a cellular telephone or digital wristwatch.

The very first thing I did when I purchased it was toss in a set of 2100 mA-h AA batteries to replace the cheap stock 1500 mA-h that came with the player. This improved battery life enormously and I was quite pleased with the result. Soon I was running from gun-toting thugs and making fast getaways with expensive imported vehicles with my very own and nigh-neverending soundtrack of thwomping electronica and discordant symphonic music.

It was worth it.

Alas, after a few too many close shaves at the hands of international drug cartels, my little Archos' hard drive was beginning to crash and act fitfully. In despair and leery of Archos' famous indifference to customer support, I purchased a Fujitsu laptop hard drive of slightly greater capacity and performed a delicate and tricky operation to swap the two. After many hours and some false starts (one involving a near-Frankensteinian scene in which I was holding batteries in place with my bare hands while tweaking contacts and shouting, "YOU NEVER WALKED AWAY FROM ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE! FIGHT! NYARRRRGH!"), I managed to revive the Archos and was reunited with my bass-heavy Eurotunes.

With the new hard drive and the high capacity batteries, I can run my little Archos (geekily named Daath) for at least fourteen hours straight as a MP3 player. It performs capably as an external portable hard drive and has in its life turned in a far better performance than any paltry iPod could have.

In short, if you are not afraid of getting your hands dirty or of finding yourself on some moonless night in an airless crypt muttering arcane words from eldritch tomes while trying to breathe life into your Archos Jukebox Recorder, then this is the portable music device for you. If, on the other hand, you wish to eschew its fundamental ease of tweaking, simplicity of controls, sturdiness of manufacture, and resistance to all weapons short of a direct tactical nuclear strike, then by all means, get yourself something designed by some prissy latte-drinking, turtleneck-wearing font designer from California.

I, on the other hand, will drive into the sunset with my richly-accessorized imported getaway vehicle while listening to the latest and finest music on a device that is so simple it could hardly fail. ... Read more

18. Philips HDD120 Audio HDD MP3 Player (20 GB)
by Philips Consumer Electronics
list price: $329.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0001KC68S
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: Philips Consumer Electronics
Sales Rank: 23648
Average Customer Review: 3.0 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

Want all your music and data with you? The hdd120 promises the ultimate music experience of over two weeks of WMA and MP3 music playback, generous 20GB capacity and direct MP3 recording - all encased in a stylishly sleek and slim design. ... Read more


  • Make voice memos in MP3
  • Simple and easy to use interface menus
  • 20 GB capacity for music and data on the go
  • USB mass storage to store and carry your data files
  • Hold up to 4500 tracks

Reviews (19)

4-0 out of 5 stars Not bad
Overall i enjoy this MP3 player. It looks good and is much cheaper then an Ipod. The pros
Great design
20 Gigs
Great display
decent battery
software: It is not as bad as everyone is saying it is. The only problem that i find is i have the put the soungs on in reverse order(14-1) Other then that the software is self explanitory.
The head phones are O.K (But who uses the headphones that come in the package anyway.)
I would recomend this product if you do not want to shell out the 300 bucks for an ipod but still want a 20 gig player.

4-0 out of 5 stars Great piece of equipment
I got mine on eBay for about $75 bucks.It had everything but the manual, and the software.That was all easily downloadable on the internet though.The software isn't too bad, actually.I originally got it to record lectures off of the internet, as I am going to law school online, but it doesn't seem to be so keen on doing that.It may work in the end though, I just haven't spent too much time on it.It didn't come with the headphones or the remote, either, but oh well.What do you want for $75? I think its a beautiful machine, by the way, and the sound is first-rate.It has locked up a couple of times, but that's been more my fault than anything.It will hold a ton of songs, too.So far, I'm pretty happy, but if I had spent $200 or so for it, I might have felt a bit different

4-0 out of 5 stars WoW better than i expected.
i recieved my hdd120 about a week ago. i only have a few complaints


black and white backlight
super scroll (awesome)
easy to use interface
inline headphone controls


headphones kinda hurt...just slide them into the ear

on/off button is the play/pause button --> kinda awkward but ull get use to it

protective case is sort of cheap


1-0 out of 5 stars stupid software
The machine is good.

I'v NEVER seen such a stuipd software before, especially for comercial electronics.
and the remote is CHEAP!
Philips software developer SUCKS!!

4-0 out of 5 stars Great player... get new software, ASAP!

I'd give this thing a 4.5 if I could... most people are giving this nice little player low marks for the requirement of using Philips' crap-tastic DMM software to transfer files.I almost didn't buy it for that reason, but I found that the people who make the dBPower Amp converter software also make a replacement program to use for transferring files onto the HDD120.

The Sveta Portable Audio program seems to do everything that the DMM didnt... including the ability to transfer my own files to and from my device/PC.It easily allows organization and playlist creation as well as letting you rip CDs directly onto the device.

My local Best Buy had these on clearance for $149... I'd highly recommend getting one at that price if you can!
... Read more

19. RCA RTD750 250-Watt Home Theatre Music Jukebox with DVD Player
by RCA
list price: $799.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0000SWAEG
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: RCA
Sales Rank: 93553
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Product Description

The RCA Home Theater Music Jukebox will change your entertainment experience forevermore. With one device you can store and convert your music, manage your music, transfer your music, explore your music, enhance your music and enjoy your favorite DVDs plus a fully capable home theatre system. Eliminate the stacks of CDs that have been lying around your house! The 20 GB Hard Drive will digitally store up to 400 CDs, or about 4, 000 songs plus you can easily convert your CD tracks into mp3 files by simply pressing the record button. This unit can record CDs four times faster than the normal play rate, which means a 60-minute CD can be recorded in just 15 minutes! Using an Internet connection, you can sort your music and mix it up any way you want plus you can view the music on your television screen. The interactive menu system makes selecting tracks as simple as touching a button on your remote - you don't even need to leave the comforts of your sofa! Quickly connect your Lyra player to the USB port on the front of the jukebox to download songs or playlists of your choice. By connecting the jukebox to the Internet you can tune into radio stations as close as your hometown or as far as your imagination carries you. With the Internet connection you can also access up-to-the-nanosecond information about the music you love. The real beauty of the RCA Home Theater Music Jukebox is that it's a fully capable home theater system. It delivers multichannel sound for powerful reproduction of music and movies, making it part of your home entertainment system couldn't possibly be easier! ... Read more


  • 200 watts of total power; includes 1 subwoofer, 1 center channel, and 4 satellite speakers
  • Measures 16.9 x 17.7 x 4.8 inches (W x H x D)
  • Amplified DVD home theater system with CD burner and hard drive for storing digital audio
  • 20 GB hard drive stores up to 350 hours of content; Digitally Store up to 400 CDs, or 4,000 Songs
  • Connect to Internet radio via Ethernet connection

20. Samsung YP-910GS USB 2.0 20 GB Hard Drive and Digital Audio Player
list price: $349.99
(price subject to change: see help)
Asin: B0000DK4T7
Catlog: CE
Manufacturer: SAMSUNG
Sales Rank: 26815
Average Customer Review: 3.5 out of 5 stars
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Product Description

The YP-910GS is the first product to be co-branded by Samsung Electronics and Napster. This innovative Digital Audio Hard Drive & Storage Device, coupled with Napster 2.0 Music Service, marks the beginning of a technology and marketing partnership to improve the experience of consumers using digital music. Napster 2.0, and the fully integrated YP-910GS, will offer music fans access to more than 500, 000 tracks of the world's greatest music from all five major record labels and hundreds of independent labels. The Samsung Electronics and Napster partnership is an example of ongoing commitment to providing customers with innovative products that are simple for everyone to use. ... Read more


  • Over 10 hours of playback with the rechargable battery
  • Compatible with Windows 2000 or XP
  • 20 GB of built-in memory space (over 5,000 songs)
  • Fully integrated with the Napster 2.0 music service
  • Built-in FM tuner and FM encoder

Reviews (95)

4-0 out of 5 stars I have had almost zero problems with this
This product has performed as expected for me and I have not had the software problems that some others obviously have experienced.I have also found the product easy to use and it works perfectly with my laptop.I had some issues with setup, but nothing that I could not solve myself with some general monkeying round.I have about 16GB of music loaded on mine and it works fine every time I use it.My only complaints are battery life seems a bit short and the manual is not very good.Also, I agree that the design is not as attractive as the ipod.Overall I'm very satisfied.

1-0 out of 5 stars Software Problem
Generally Samsung MP3 players are very weak because of their poorly designed softwares. I bought YP-925GS and had to return it because of software issues and this unit uses the same software. I have been given Samsung MP3 players in the past for free and same issues with poor software.

1-0 out of 5 stars i've never owned a bigger piece of crap.
this product is god awful and has been nothing but trouble since I recieved it as a christmas gift last year. the first one I owned was defective fresh out of the package- none of the controls would respond (and yes, the hold button was off and yes, the battery was fully charged). i got best buy to exchange the player for a functional one and while adding tracks to it from my computer this brand new 2nd player froze up and ceased to work. after re-setting it, it became totally non-responsive; I'd turn it on, the blue lights would appear, but the screen would stay blank. I went through hell trying to get Samsung to repair it and once they finally agreeded to and sent my player back to me the same glitch occurred while transferring music to it via my cd player.

also, if you have a software problem you can't get Samsung to help you since the software is by Napster (and they don't communicate w/ Samsung). So if you have to call customer service prepare to be on the phone forever.

Please don't buy this product, it'd be better to just flush your $400.00 down the toilet. In a rush to cash in on the iPod market they released this player full of bugs. F**ck this thing.

1-0 out of 5 stars Do NOT Buy the Samsung YP-910GS
This has to be the worst MP3 player ever made!Mine has been in the shop THREE times in the six months I have owned it.Everytime it is the hard drive failing.This started out as a good idea but they missed the boat on this one.Samsung makes great other products but they should stay out of the MP3 player business.Buy a Rio or Ipod!I warned you!!

2-0 out of 5 stars Do not waste your time
This gets 2 stars because I really liked the hardware. Problem is, the software is from Napster and the hardware is from Samsung and even though they say they are in "partnership" the software doesn't work with the hardware at all.

Simple things like ripping a CD to the Samsung is a nightmare. The software acts like it's pulling CD data from CDDB, but it's not. You either get a garbled mess, or nothing. Even though the manual says that you can build a play list on your computer and then drag and drop it to the Samsung, you can't. In order to do practically anything, you have to sign in to Napster first.

And, of course, when you call for technical support, Napster blames Samsung and Samsung blames Napster. Both are pretty clueless.

Just get a standard MP3 player and forget about this Napster/Samsung stuff. ... Read more

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